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The former president made multiple chilling warnings during an interview with Time magazine.
Donald Trump hasn’t quite let go of the possibility of utilizing mob violence if he loses the next election.
In a sprawling interview for Time magazine, Trump hinted that leveraging political violence to achieve his end goals was still on the table.
“If we don’t win, you know, it depends,” he told Time. “It always depends on the fairness of the election.”
And from Trump’s perspective, that’s winning rhetoric. According to him, his incendiary comments supporting a mob mentality, his early warnings of forthcoming abuses of power, and his threats to be a dictator on “day one” are only inching him closer to the White House. “I think a lot of people like it,” Trump told Time.
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If the FEC had any fucking teeth they’d jail and disqualify him for that statement alone.
They have teeth. But half of the people who decide whether or not they pursue charges against someone are republican appointees.
So, you know… teeth, but corrupted leadership.
They’re the same picture
Yes and no. I can’t speak to the particulars of this situation but differences in means matter even if they currently produce the same outcome. A toothless dog and a dog in a muzzle are different in important ways.
That’s a great and succinct way to describe that.
I don’t really disagree in present circumstances.
But I feel it’s necessary to characterize it correctly. Characterizing the FEC as a whole to be deficient when it’s a few bad actors temporarily at the head of the FEC could be used as justification by other bad actors or well-intentioned but misled people to undermine the FEC - which would make it deficient should the leadership issues be corrected.Sort of the game that conservatives play with government services. Cut the funding until the service is flagging, then use that as justification to either further cut the budget or reduce the scope of the service until the service is no longer a real government service.
Can’t let ourselves buy into that.
January 6th was a failed coup attempt.
How is saying you’ll retry your failed coup attempt if you don’t get your way something were allowing a presidential candidate to do?
Because he “tells it like it is” or something. Idk. The kind of people still falling for his grift are too shameless to ever admit that they ever fell for his grift, so they’re doubling down, succumbing to the sunk cost fallacy. They just stay in their echo chambers and saturate their awareness with weird culture war shit and then never hear about what’s actually happening. Half of them probably don’t even know that their guy is a defendant in criminal court this week. Willfully ignorant.
No I’m fine with uneducated masses eating it up.
I’m not okay with judges pulling out their dentures to slobber on trumps balls over matters that threaten the whole country instead of figuratively castrating him the moment he says shit like this.
Agreed. But conservatives have learned over the past 10-20 years that they can more or less just do whatever they want without consequence because 1/3 of the people will fight to the death for whatever they do or say, 1/3 is completely unaware and uninterested in politics and current events, and the final 1/3 is people like us who want consequences but we’re too busy to do anything ourselves because survival is hard enough these days. There are a hundred things worthy of outrage and organized demonstration too, so which cause do we dedicate our summer to trying to fix? The right has an easier time because they just say “things used to be better” and then have one event where people complain about change. Pretty much everybody can identify with being pissed off that something used to be better until they changed it, and for some reason that’s strong enough to get some pretty average people to sit at the table with Nazis. There’s much more nuance and thoughtfulness on the left, so it’s much harder to get unity.
Because conservatives can grow and maintain a reliable base to keep them in power, they feel no need to even pretend to be decent most of the time. They can just fervently choose their own selfish goals over what the Constitution or other rules and laws demand. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that we’re rapidly approaching the era of post-democracy America. Some would say we’ve been there for decades already, but I think we’re in for some dictatorial, executions-in-the-streets type of shit if Biden loses. So conservatives in power who like trump or even suspect that he may win or get into power otherwise have to weigh doing the right thing which could hurt their party and draw targets on their backs vs low/no consequence siding with trump.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum
Because “not trying to overthrow the government due to losing an election” isn’t listed in the Constitution as a requirement to be elected. One would think that’s a pretty major oversight.
It is but the Senate failed to do their job as usual and enforce it, thanks Mitch
We learned nothing from hitlers rise to power, obviously.
wouldn’t want this to appear politically motivated, now would we?
I have strong doubts. The people most likely to “Jan 6” did. A number of them, particularly the mid-level leaders, that actually organized things, are in prison. They have not turned out in numbers since they started getting arrested.
They got light sentences. And let’s face it, the people that are going to organize yet another insurrection are going to be duped by the same logic that Trump will pardon them or that their acts are justified.
Trump is threatening our democracy. Again.
He’s saying that if he doesn’t win, there’s going to be another insurrection.
The sad reality is that over the last four years, fascist states have put laws into place that make it legal to overturn elections for little to no reason. No oversight.
He won’t need an insurrection because he has willing accomplices.
Remember, the Beer Hall Putch failed. So we have nothing to worry about?
Per the new rules in my state, all my history books have had the pages from 1924 to 1957 torn out. So I’m assuming this part of history was just woke and soy and therefore unimportant.
Oh man, you didn’t get to read about how our good Christian American soldiers kicked the ass of the Godless Communist Germany in WW2?
No. But I was told by a private student group funded through the anonymous donation of particularly religious billionaires that I needed to “do my own research” on who the real bad guys were.
No. Not my point at all.
All it takes is just one person with a gun and a grudge to kill dozens.
But that won’t take them any closer to toppling the government. Jan. 6 could only happen because Trump actively prevented the police from doing their jobs. That won’t happen under Biden.
Trump actively prevented the police from doing their jobs
I hear Trump did the same thing at Uvalde.
Oh, fuck off, the only reason it got that far on Jan 6 is that he was already in charge and refused to call in troops to immediately shut it down. I doubt Biden sits on his hands for several hours while rioters attack the Capitol.
If Biden wins the election I can almost guarantee that there will be guards posted ahead of time.
Don’t forget they were specifically instructed to let the MAGAts run wild.
Miller said Trump told him: “Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights.”
And trump’s sycophant “acting directors” were in place to thwart any attempt at control of the drunken hick mob.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/12/meadows-jan-6-national-guard-trump-524133
How many more Babbits will trump create when he can’t tell the capital police to stand down? Or even, how many of his idiot followers are even going to show up when they got fucked and abandoned last time?
You’re a pathetic weakling Donnie, go sit the fuck down and pout to a judge.
Imagine dying for a billionaire because he lost a popularity contest.
(again)
I think the best (and a frustrating) part is that he hasn’t won the popular vote once
God damn we need to get rid of the electoral college
I have no sympathy for Babbitt. Suicide by cop as far as him concerned
The only story there is they got so far in before any of them were shot. She was crawling through the final barrier between the mob of insurrectionists and members of Congress and still given plenty of opportunity to cut that out.
Insurrectionists were basically allowed to run free smearing feces on the walls until there was no other option to prevent them from murdering representatives. If all cops would show that much restraint that would be rad as fuck. I guess not every protest has their off-duty buddies in the crowd, though.
How many more Babbits will trump create when he can’t tell the capital police to stand down?
Enough Ashley Babbits and its less of a problem for conservatives than for the police.
Fucken Bolsonaro did the same shit and it’s looking like he’s actually gonna get prosecuted. Real shame the US government isn’t up to the high standards set by Brazil, but maybe we’ll get there someday!
These morons should be greeted by the National Guard
Specifically flying elements of The Maryland Air National Guard’s 175th wing based at Warfield Air National Guard Base.
Agreed
How many members of the National Guard are already MAGA Chuds?
You’re right, probably too many
So he is threatening to go full Mussolini then?
Hopefully, he gets the full Mussolini treatment. They will have to find an Exxon station since Esso changed its name in the 70s.
Well what’s important is that Mussolini eventually became a good fascist. I just wish he’d done it faster
I saw your comment and my thought process went: “What?! Good fascist? The only good fascist is…is…oh. Ohhhhhh!”
Skip straight to the head-kicking.
Always has been
More and more
Oh it’ll absolutely happen. We all know this already. And he won’t be held accountable for that either.
He OBVIOUSLY learned his lesson Last Time!
Someone go kick Susan Collins in the butt
I know what the headline actually means but i’m choosing to believe that donny just found out about calendars.
Traitor
Question is what exactly does he mean? That MAGA republicans from around USA will visit the capitol city and go to see congress, all completely peacefully. we just have to hope the LGTB people don’t make a mess of it.
Because isn’t that what he claimed happened?
Trump is such a malignant idiot, and so is everybody who supports him.
Question is what exactly does he mean?
Terrorism.
But the little bitches in the government are too afraid to call a spade a spade.
I was referring to Trump’s rhetoric that nothing happened, it was mostly a garden party where everybody from MAGA were nice and didn’t do anything wrong. Despite all the evidence of violence and even policemen/security people dying and threats of executing politicians. But hey, that’s just another day of being American I guess.
Nothing bad happened on Jan6… It was AntiFa and BLM… But the people in jail are patriot MAGA hostages?
These people will say those three things together and not see a problem with it
“hE jUsT teLLs iT liKe It iS”
He is their license to act like an asshole, because everything is changing and they don’t like it
Can’t upset conservatives or they won’t vote for me. And my entire election strategy hinges on winning over as many moderate conservatives as possible.
The difference is, if rioters try to break into the Capitol building THIS time, they’re not going to get bottled water and a pat on the ass. The Capitol police are going to be loaded for bear.
No fucking quarter
Please try it.
Your guy isn’t in the white house this time.
