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Immich is joining FUTO!
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Will the license change?
No. Immich will continue to be licensed under AGPL without a CLA.
good
I hate that it needs to be said but love that they said it so plainly
I’m happy for them. Immich, along with Nextcloud, was the driving force behind my getting in to self hosting - getting away from the ridiculous and increasing subscription prices associated with keeping family photos and documents.
It has come an incredibly long way in the time I’ve been using it. I’ve kicked them a donation or two, a first for me with OSS, because it continued to provide so much value for me.
I had read earlier that Alex was hoping to transition to working on this full time and I am happy he has been able to see that realized in - what appears to be - a positive manner.
Immich was my first donation too. It’s grown so much, implemented features from user suggestions, and is quite polished.
It started as a Picasa/google photos copy, but is so much more now.
Can’t wait to see where they are headed.
That’s awesome. Immich is one of the most professional self hosted solutions I’ve used, so I love to see this.
Funded by a (somewhat controversial) tech billionair, see a recent interview with him here: https://youtu.be/5UHF84gyVWg
Does it matter? At the end of the day it’s still money put in to open source.
Yes, because there’s a desire, conscious or unconscious, to keep that money flowing, which means pleasing the investor.
If that happens, it will be forked
This is some naive stuff right here.
Elite programmers make most of the important stuff
This is false. Not even gonna elaborate.
Competition is the solution
No. Competition is inefficient and the best software we have is built cooperatively. Linux, most open source software. We dislike duplication for a reason and seek to avoid it when possible. We try to avoid forking, instead we try to work together as much as possible. Corporations also run things cooperatively internally instead of duplicating effort. Competition is only needed when you a profit driven market is what determines what’s offered and used and it comes with tremendous inefficiency.
I’m a big fan of free market capitalism. When there’s a lot of churn…
Yeah. See above.
If you have an individual in charge of a company, that’s better than having a mob
Oh Jesus… He doesn’t realize that most of the problems that developers face which they can’t fix, including himself when he was at Yahoo, are exactly because there’s a guy or few in charge and the developers have no decision power.
Quit your job …
Nope. I won’t quit my job to join another place where I have no vote. As long as you’re creating companies that aren’t democratic by design, I’m changing one guy profiting from me for another. If the other guy is marginally more ethical, that’s only gonna last as long as the push for profit knocks on the door. We can’t all be CEOs so the only way to build sustainably ethical companies is for them to be ruled by the mob. One person, one vote. Otherwise I’m better off creating democracy by working to unionize the existing corporations.
If the guy wants to fund FOSS, great. But unfortunately this FUTO venture is unlikely to be the organization that dramatically changes the status quo. We need another billi that has read and understood a bit about class analysis and democracy to do that.
Watched this talk as well. These folks are clueless. I’m glad the Immich devs are getting money from them but that’s not gonna last. Eron himself went about if they don’t have X users in Y time, then they’ll have problems (they not being Immich specifically).
I know nothing about this person, but on multiple occasions I’ve had the thought that if I was a gazillionaire, I’d sponsor a bunch of open source. Maybe this is that? I’ll choose to stay hopeful (though I’m kinda dumb about this sorta stuff)
How is he controversial? the only negative thing I’ve seen about FUTO is the proprietary license grayjay is under.
Some of the views he expressed in the past sounded a lot like Elon Musk before he went full bonkers recently. But I guess it could be worse.
The other partner in FUTO is Louis Rossman. Maybe one cancels out the other?
I’m pretty sure Louis is just another recipient of FUTO’s funding, not “the” other partner to this dude.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/5UHF84gyVWg
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Don’t Abuse the People We expect FUTO companies to have an honest relationship with their customers. Ideally revenue comes from customers paying directly for the services provided by company.
https://futo.org/what-does-futo-believe/
Good for the Immich guys, but I fear incoming enshittification or a subscription model.
Your quoted paragraph is the only sane alternative to the ad supported internet. Think Fastmail vs gmail - both are run for a profit, but fastmail’s business model is to simply sell subscriptions. Their incentives are better aligned with the consumer, and while nobody’s going to become a billionaire off the company I have to imagine that they have a very reliable customer base.
Good software should be paid for, devs gotta eat
It is a bit weird. They’re doing the Winrar business model of “pay if you want to, but don’t have to”. I don’t get how such a niche product can support multiple salaries.
What does it mean?
That the developers have more time to develop it.
I love it. The only thing keeping me from switching is two-way sync. Or at least make apps updates edited photos.
I keep photos of the current year on my phone and all photos on my computer. That’s because I want to edit them or use. Unfortunetly Immich currently is typical black hole, where I am expected to download file from cloud manually, then edit, then delete original, then patch creation date and then upload it again.
