In a democracy, I don’t see how their vote really matters less. Plus it’ll help improve prisons perhaps.
They are allowed to vote in civilized countries.
What do you think of France, UK, Italy and China? Because a prisoners right to vote can be removed in those countries as well.
Ah yes, China, a well known bastion of civil liberties.
Whatabout the UK, France, and China?
The UK whose flailing neo-fascist government just passed a law allowing it to deport refugees to Rwanda? Whose government is about to experience a historic blowout at the polls? Whose government destroyed their economy by pulling them out of the EU to try to regain the glory of the empire? That UK?
France with is neoliberal government? Macaron had spent so much time attacking workers and their rights to steal from the rich and give to the poor that he’s almost handed the counry to the fascist brownshirts of Marine Le Pen?
This Italy? ?
And China?
I believe I said, “civilized countries”.
I’m very familiar with what aboutism, and that’s not what I intended to do with my question.
This forum has many biases and I feel that for us to have an opinion on an issue it should be applied to all equitably and not just because the party someone hates does it.
I don’t disagree with the topic, I just disagree with how you stated it.
In civilized countries every citizen has the right to vote and equal access to the ballot box. The US has neither of those things. I stand by what I said.
I can’t remember where I heard this originally, but I subscribe to the belief that you need to maintain the rights of criminals (like voting) to prevent tyranny.
Because if being labeled a criminal is enough to remove your rights, a corrupt government need only declare you one to take your rights away.
It used to be criminal in some parts of the USA for black and white people to intermarry, for example. Imagine losing your right to vote because of who you married.
It was Nelson Mandela:
A nation should not be judged by how it treats its highest citizens, but its lowest ones.
To be honest I was shocked when I learned about this stripping of rights when you are imprisoned in the US. It is literally a tool of tyranny to lock people up in order to silence them.
This isn’t remotely unpopular among most people on the Fediverse I think.
I’ll go one further, voting should be mandatory, punishable by a fine. The ballot should also have “none of the above” as an option.
I agree with this, except that the punishment should be a short stay in jail, like maybe as long as a week for repeat offenses. That way it serves as a deterent and being wealthy won’t make it worth it.
That’s a bit much. Maybe a day of community service? 🤣
And if none of the above wins, the office should be left vacant for a term.
A random person will be chosen
That’s worse.
That’s what you get for voting None
Most elected positions would be better served by a vacancy than those who typically hold them.
But if you let prisoners vote, you’d have to let the black ones vote too. And if you did that, there’d be next to no point in locking them up in the first place.
Not true! You’d still have the benefit of slave labor!
Bruh, the democracy in my country is a joke and even we have votes on prisons, what the hell? I thought this was standard.
as long as they didn’t commit voter fraud, I’m all for it. if you went to prison for fucking with the election, I think you should lose your vote.
Totally reasonable and normal opinion. Possible in many countries
