• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    Ukraine actually did find a few Russian drones connected by an incredibly long thin tether. Since jamming drones’ control channels is a massive issue on both sides and it would be nice just not to have to worry about it, it does make some level of sense. As far as I’m aware from public sources, the ultimate conclusion after not very many experiments was that it’s way too much of a pain in the ass to be worthwhile.

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      Just to be disgustingly credible for a moment, I imagine that the biggest practical issue with tethering a drone to, say, a tank, is that as soon as someone spots the drone (which is floating in the air with zero ability to camouflage itself) they have now spotted that you have a tank somewhere very close by. Close enough that just dropping an artillery barrage on the whole area probably isn’t a waste. With good enough optics you could probably even follow the cable in order to get an exact location on the operator, and then introduce them to Mr Missile.

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    Biggest issue I see is the weight of the wire. The farther up, or farther away the drone gets, the more weight of cable it needs to carry, and the more likely it is that this cable gets snared on something.

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      This could be easily resolved by attaching more drones to the fiber at regular intervals to keep it supported.

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    Something I’ve wondered about myself is having a laser communication system on the drone and controller on mounts that always turn to point at eachother, so that jamming the signal isn’t doable because it’s highly directional. Probably want a repeater drone that flies at high altitude above trees and terrain to give it line of sight on all the other drones

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      Yeah I saw some drone swarm ideas like that, hard to know what got picked up but having some drones as repeaters giving hard to disrupt signals locally and communicating with base units via highly directional laser or microwave repeater drones is almost certainly something they have or are working on.

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    Optical fibre is fucking fragile as all hell. You aren’t going to see appreciable signal loss with an antenna with much better weight savings not have a spool of cable either on the armoured vehicle (minimal if on the vehicle) or the drone (undesirable). Not to mention the mechanical issues associated with the spooling.

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        The strands are still glass though, and have a much wider maximum bend radius than something like CAT* cable.

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          Did you watch the video? He’s wrapping fiber optic cable over a 10mm mandrel with no problems and it’s causing no loss. The video is 10 years old at this point too, we’ve probably progressed further with technology.

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        So, you still need the special connectors, still a cable. I mean, if you wanted a smart kite sure, that is an overpriced solution.

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    Optical fiber is really not very flexible. It doesn’t like sharp corners, it has pretty fast dropout, and if it gets banged against something it’ll break.

    It’s good for infrastructure that doesn’t move, it’s not fantastic for controlling vehicles remotely. That’s why remote control submarines don’t use it and underwater is probably a more forgiving environment than in the air.

  • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    Biggest problem I see is that you are firing the case with the bullet. They don’t work very well that way, though taking a page out of aperture science’s playbook, it does give you 60% more bullet per bullet.