cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/20749204

Another positive step in the right direction for an organization rife with brokenness. There’s a lot I don’t like about the organization, but this is something a love–a scouting organization open to young women and the lgbtq community. The next step is being inclusive of nonreligious agnostic and atheist youth and leaders. As well as ending the cultural appropriation of Native American peoples.

May this organization continue to build up youth, never allow further violence against youth, and make amends for all the wrongs. There’s a lot of good that comes out of organizations like this and I won’t discount it even though it’s riddled with a dark history.

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    But God won’t disappear. Christ will return in glory to judge the living and the dead.

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      If he’s going to be judging the dead when he comes back, why are Christians always talking about people currently being in heaven or hell? Shouldn’t they all be chilling in purgatory until Jesus gets around to judging them?

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      Eh, millions of people also believe(d) that:

      • Vishnu
      • Odin
      • Waheguru
      • Ahura Mazda
      • Amaterasu
      • Taiyi Tianzun
      • Baha’u’llah
      • Mahavira
      • Buddha(s)
      • Cernunnos
      • Zeus
      • Ra
      • Thor
      • Perun
      • Olorun
      • Perkūnas
      • Al-Hakim
      • Melek Taus
      • Shenlha Ökar
      • Haile Selassi
      • Olodumare
      • Olorum
      • Nyankopon
      • Hanulnim
      • Tenri-O-no-Mikoto
      • Kami
      • Anu
      • Mithras
      • Osiris
      • Apollo
      • Jupiter
      • Huitzilopochtli
      • Inti
      • …etc

      …were real and divine. And would have sworn on their life that it was true.

      But your minority religion is the one that’s finally real, right?

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        You missed a bunch of good ones:

        • Flying Spaghetti Monster
        • Great Green Arkleseizure
        • Harry Potter
        • Zorp
        • Eru Iluvitar
        • Tim
        • Lisan al Gaib
        • Jeff
        • …etc

        In all likelyhood, just as real as the ones you listed :)

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        Yep! Because we have actual historical records of Jesus

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          We have some really weak records that some dude existed.

          That doesn’t mean anything about why your mythology is true. We also have records of lots of people who millions believed were divine.

          But heres another thing: You are not a Christian because it’s Truth.

          You’re a Christian because your parents were. That’s it. That’s the main reason you believe what you do and swear it is real. You happened to be born into it.

          Same as how 99.9999% of Hindus are only Hindu because their parents were, or Muslims, or etc. They also believe what they do not because it’s the Real Truth. But because of where they were born. Which is a really, really weak reason.

          …And anyway - there’s a whole lot more people alive today who believe in other religions; why should I believe yours over theirs?

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            They’re stronger than the records we have for most other historical figures.

            Also I wasn’t born a Christian, lol. Weird assumption to make.

            Jesus exists in basically every world religion, minus Judaism which had to make a whole entire book explaining how he apparently wasn’t the messiah and mocking Him in the process. They all hold inconsistent views. Islam claims that he was a prophet (not God) and his resurrection was merely an illusion, Judaism claims he was just a sorcerer (as did most roman sources from His time, because that’s the only way they could explain away the miracles) Hinduism sees him as a holy man, Buddhism sees him as a Bodhisattva. But Christianity follows His teaching directly which was simple:

            I am The Way, The Truth and The Life, nobody gets to The Father except through me.

            I and The Father are one

            Before Abraham was, ɪ ᴀᴍ