It’s not a trolley problem. It’s you making a choice as to whether you accept the Democratic pro-genocide stance or not and whether you’re willing to put your stamp of approval on it.
The lesser of two evils argument doesn’t work anymore, try something different now, you’re just pissing people off by demanding they actively support genocide.
It is a trolley problem. Either the Democrats will be in power after the election, or the Republicans will. Voting for the lesser of two evils is a valid tactic when you live in a two-party system.
A vote for Biden is what makes future Democratic support for genocide possible. That’s what you’re putting your seal of approval on; that the democrats can fund a literal genocide and still win elections.
I won’t support or encourage it, and the more you demand and squeal that people must support genocide the more sure I become that I won’t.
Want people to vote for Biden? Pressure him and all your reps to defund Israel. That’s your most pragmatic course, what you’re doing now is not just a waste of time but counter-productive.
Using your logic then, by not voting Democrats, you are making a Republican rule more likely. Even by minuscule amounts. If enough people share your view, it’s a real help to them. Why do you want to help them? Do you love wannabe Dictators that much? Staying home helps Republicans.
Yes. Some of them are fascists, and some of them are accelerationists who merely WANT to be fascists. There’s not much difference except the speed at which they want to get down and lick the boots though.
“The lesser of two evils argument doesn’t work anymore”
Ah, so you’re just going with the greater of the two evils because, apparently, you just can’t get enough genocide. Us less privileged Americans will thank you from the concentration camps.
No. You are guarunteeing the “greater of two evils” by trying to force people to approve genocide.
The only thing you should be doing is pressuring your representatives to cut off aid to Israel in whatever way you can. If you want Joe Biden to be president again that’s the only way. No one is going to respond to this fear mongering bullshit anymore. That strategy has only slid us closer to fascism, it’s time for the Democrats to prove they’re different, not for everyone to accept that they’re the same.
Demanding that people support genocide is a non-starter. Try again.
No one is going to respond to this fear mongering bullshit anymore.
Of course, the privileged who won’t suffer aren’t going to stand for concerned minorities anymore who will be oppressed and killed once they allow fascism into power. How brave of you!
Notice how these ding dongs you’re tangling with only ever say bad things about Biden/Democrats? They’re either active propagandists or fully taken by them.
The question to ask here, to really lay it out: Whether you like it or not, politics in the US are between Republicans and Democrats. The presidential election is between Biden and Trump. Who’s worse by a country mile?
One will make it MUCH harder to organize and fight for a better future, in addition to very likely destroying what democracy we do have in this country and murdering hundreds of thousands of minorities.
The other will do, effectively, very little about anything, as insufficient as that is.
I think the choice is obvious, but apparently fascism is preferable to some self-proclaimed leftists.
When of course they are not both the same. Hell, even talking about Gaza/West Bank/Golan Heights, who actually thinks that the US with Republican control of Congress and POTUS wouldn’t double the fuck down on enabling the Israeli government to subjugate Palestinians?
I’ve been alive long enough to know that the state of politics in the US since about 2012 is not normal, and that abnormalcy all comes from conservative lunatics, who are growing in number, or have always been there quietly, or both.
But really, as long as the commentary is just about how bad Biden/Democrats are … “Go home, Russian propaganda.”
Biden’s support of Israel being pro-genocide doesn’t make supporting his opponent anti-genocide, considering his opponent has literally come out on record saying that Israel isn’t being genocidal ENOUGH for his tastes and that he would support them to the hilt, in addition to all the plans he has for genocide elsewhere, like Ukraine and the US.
It’s not a trolley problem. It’s you making a choice as to whether you accept the Democratic pro-genocide stance or not and whether you’re willing to put your stamp of approval on it.
The lesser of two evils argument doesn’t work anymore, try something different now, you’re just pissing people off by demanding they actively support genocide.
It is a trolley problem. Either the Democrats will be in power after the election, or the Republicans will. Voting for the lesser of two evils is a valid tactic when you live in a two-party system.
A vote for Biden is what makes future Democratic support for genocide possible. That’s what you’re putting your seal of approval on; that the democrats can fund a literal genocide and still win elections.
I won’t support or encourage it, and the more you demand and squeal that people must support genocide the more sure I become that I won’t.
Want people to vote for Biden? Pressure him and all your reps to defund Israel. That’s your most pragmatic course, what you’re doing now is not just a waste of time but counter-productive.
Using your logic then, by not voting Democrats, you are making a Republican rule more likely. Even by minuscule amounts. If enough people share your view, it’s a real help to them. Why do you want to help them? Do you love wannabe Dictators that much? Staying home helps Republicans.
Yes. Some of them are fascists, and some of them are accelerationists who merely WANT to be fascists. There’s not much difference except the speed at which they want to get down and lick the boots though.
“The lesser of two evils argument doesn’t work anymore”
Ah, so you’re just going with the greater of the two evils because, apparently, you just can’t get enough genocide. Us less privileged Americans will thank you from the concentration camps.
Enjoy your Soylent Green, at least it’s better than bugs.
No. You are guarunteeing the “greater of two evils” by trying to force people to approve genocide.
The only thing you should be doing is pressuring your representatives to cut off aid to Israel in whatever way you can. If you want Joe Biden to be president again that’s the only way. No one is going to respond to this fear mongering bullshit anymore. That strategy has only slid us closer to fascism, it’s time for the Democrats to prove they’re different, not for everyone to accept that they’re the same.
Demanding that people support genocide is a non-starter. Try again.
Of course, the privileged who won’t suffer aren’t going to stand for concerned minorities anymore who will be oppressed and killed once they allow fascism into power. How brave of you!
Notice how these ding dongs you’re tangling with only ever say bad things about Biden/Democrats? They’re either active propagandists or fully taken by them.
The question to ask here, to really lay it out: Whether you like it or not, politics in the US are between Republicans and Democrats. The presidential election is between Biden and Trump. Who’s worse by a country mile?
They’ll say “They’re both the same!”
One will make it MUCH harder to organize and fight for a better future, in addition to very likely destroying what democracy we do have in this country and murdering hundreds of thousands of minorities.
The other will do, effectively, very little about anything, as insufficient as that is.
I think the choice is obvious, but apparently fascism is preferable to some self-proclaimed leftists.
When of course they are not both the same. Hell, even talking about Gaza/West Bank/Golan Heights, who actually thinks that the US with Republican control of Congress and POTUS wouldn’t double the fuck down on enabling the Israeli government to subjugate Palestinians?
I’ve been alive long enough to know that the state of politics in the US since about 2012 is not normal, and that abnormalcy all comes from conservative lunatics, who are growing in number, or have always been there quietly, or both.
But really, as long as the commentary is just about how bad Biden/Democrats are … “Go home, Russian propaganda.”
You forget, the brown people who are against genocide are not very different from the group that suffered from reprisals after 9/11.
Hardly privileged.
Allowing Trump to be elected isn’t even incidentally anti-genocide. It’s explicitly pro-genocide.
And Biden sending bombs to Israel is not pro-genocide?
What do you think those bombs are going to be used for?
Biden’s support of Israel being pro-genocide doesn’t make supporting his opponent anti-genocide, considering his opponent has literally come out on record saying that Israel isn’t being genocidal ENOUGH for his tastes and that he would support them to the hilt, in addition to all the plans he has for genocide elsewhere, like Ukraine and the US.
Lol