It’s my goddamn motherfucking mobile data and MY PHONE. I should be able to use it however I want. My wifi went down because the greedy, cunt-faced shitbags at Comcast stole taxpayer subsidies to enrich themselves instead of actually providing the service we’re paying for. I tried to switch to a mobile hotspot and my phone refuses to open one. Everyone responsible for this shit should be fed to alligators locked away in a fucking gulag. We have no rights and live in a corporate plutocracy.

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    I’ve heard about this happening and I couldn’t believe it.

    I don’t even understand this from a networking perspective… Your phone just becomes a router, forwarding requests, so from the ISP perspective it’s still the same?

    How do they even know?

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      They worked with OS developers, certainly. My phone says it’s “verifying” for a sec before it fails.

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        They detect lower than usual TTL of packets coming from your mobile device when it routes packets during tethering. They might also set TTL to 1 to packets going from internet to your mobile, so they get dropped instead of being forwarded further. You would need to plug the SIM card into your own modem+router combo with TTL modification rules in place to avoid detection. But then they might just block your modem by checking IMEI…

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          Or we could cut their cocks off have a very nice chat with them about the ethics of taking advantage of consumers.

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          Is that actually it? So could software be written to just +1 TTL on incoming and -1 on outgoing packets and then problem solved?

          You would need pretty low level access so that comes around to custom rom again…

          You can spoof MACs so couldn’t you spoof a IMEI as well? Theoretically speaking, not on your bog standard $2 ISP modem

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          “Yes but actually no.” If they can get a custom ROM flashed, yes. But it’s very likely everything is just locked down, so it’s not an option.

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        Back in college, we would use a hotspot on someone’s phone (with mobile data off) as a WiFi router to play LAN games.

        I just checked my Pixel 6a and it doesn’t let me do that.

        Thank you, smooth-brained developers at Google. I love not being able to do what I want with my purchased device.

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            It’s Google.

            I think there’s a misunderstanding. I was trying to convey in my previous comment that Google does not allow me to create a hotspot with my mobile data turned off.

            I put my SIM in my backup phone, a OnePlus Nord N10, to prove it to you. I can create a hotspot with my mobile data turned off on it.

            I can’t do so on my Pixel 6a.

            EDIT: Apparently it’s working for others on Pixels. See this comment further below in the chain. Not sure why its disabled for me.

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              Did you buy your Pixel directly from Google? If you got it from your cell carrier, they probably have the option to lock certain settings. I have a Pixel 5a from Google and I can tether all I want.

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                Bought from the Google Store. Running Android 13.

                Which Android version are you on? And just to confirm, you’re trying tethering with your mobile data off, right?

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                    Interesting. Guess it really is the mobile carrier enforcing that much control over my device.

                    This sucks.