• fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 months ago

    This.

    I have a (well managed) chronic illness. I have to go to lots of doctors at different clinics. All of them are in the habit of just collecting all the information.

    For example, as a patient, there’s no benefit to me whatsoever of the doctor being aware of the day and month of my birth. That’s just the start though, they have my medical concession id number, addresses, et cetera.

    If you express any reluctance at all, you’re made to feel like a pariah. Like a COVID denier or something. For example, there was one clinic I want sure I would continue with, so when I was asked to fill out my details I asked whether it was really necessary given that I might not come on board as a patient, the receptionist and doctor just couldn’t understand why I might be reluctant.

    Last time I saw my GP he asked whether he could record our conversation… “it’s some AI thing we’re trialling”. OMFG. Why on earth would I want that? Why would anyone want that? I want my GP who is an actual person to listen to my circumstances and determine the best course of action.

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      4 months ago

      Day and Month of Birth is a basic check to see if you are who you say you are, if you are refusing to give even basic details like that I can see why the medical staff who deal with you would give you confused/annoyed expressions

      • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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        4 months ago

        I think this statement is far too broad.

        It might be good to have AI review some imaging someone has had done to examine some particular ailment.

        It’s definitely not good to have a LLM review conversations with my GP and send me targeted marketing for “potential” ailments.

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          4 months ago

          It is, it was a bit terse, you’re right.

          A potential fantastic use of AI is to scan a person’s medical records against the vast medical knowledge humans have gathered over the past century or so to help doctors identify problems quicker and with more accuracy.

          While the general purpose AI’s we use today can’t be trusted to diagnose anything (but I’d argue they can assist a competent doctor) a future specific purpose AI that’s tailored to that task could revolutionize diagnosis. And with the rate AI is going (even if people like Sam Altman are stretching truths) it’s not a too distant future.

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        4 months ago

        Also worth mentioning.

        Ask for fucking consent.

        AI model training is off the fucking rails right now and we really need laws and lawsuits to punish assholes.

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            4 months ago

            Sorry, maybe I should clarify that to “informed consent” - if someone shoves an eighty page ToS in front of you to use the services of their private hospital you may be giving consent technically but it’s not informed consent.

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        4 months ago

        That’s nice and all, but in the meantime, 96 of the hospital’s “valued partners” are listening in to figure out the best thing to advertise to you next.