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  • SGG@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    There’s always a trade off when it comes to any device.

    Fast or slow, lots of features or basic, cheap or expensive, thin/stylish or ruggedized, water or other ingress resistant standards. All of these have to be weighted against each other.

    Also what constitutes a drop? 4 feet, 40 feet, 400? (sorry if I turned on anyone with a foot fetish)

    It is absolutely possible to create a mobile phone with most features people want that survives multiple 4 foot high drops, but it will be encased in a few cm of rubber, the touch screen will be under a noticeable screen protector, and reception might suffer a bit, and it won’t have wireless charging unless you’re ok if that stops working after a unlucky drop. It will also probably be expensive, even more so if you then want to use more premium materials in order to try and slim it down some.

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      2 months ago

      I mean, my mobile phone was like 350aud, has survived literally dozens of drops from 4ft+, on a variety of surfaces from carpet and lino to gravel, concrete and bitumen. Literally every function of the phone works fine and there’s no case, just a screen protector. It didn’t come with wireless charging so I don’t know how fragile that would be, but current phones are tough as shit.

      The chassis of my phone is dented and smashed in dozens of places and everything it could do new it can do now just the same, except for looking pretty.

    • poke@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      Now that you mention it, we live in the future! Where are my indestructible, microwave-safe, and machine-wash safe plates? Don’t say plastic, those get weird with high temperatures.

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Superfest made them. None of the glass makers and distributers would buy them because they were practically indestructible, so they couldn’t see infinite sales.

    • bleistift2@feddit.deOP
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      2 months ago

      You transport the dishes, sure, but do you eat from them while standing? I was specifically referring to handheld devices.

      • hperrin@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Wine glasses, yeah. And other drink glasses too. But yeah, I assume you mean handheld electronics, which even that is a stretch. Handheld CD players, camcorders, cameras, are all pretty fragile and I wouldn’t say they’re planned obsolescence. You just gotta be careful with fragile things. We use our phones way more often than any electronic device from the past, so more chance to drop them and notice how fragile they are.

  • CobblerScholar@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Humans will break anything and everything that we use regardless of size shape or function just depends on how fast. Long as every piece is replaceable and repairable then it doesn’t matter if it breaks

    • Mr Fish@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

      • SGG@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        There’s a constant race between inventors and the universe. Inventors are trying to create idiot proof devices, and the universe is creating better idiots.

        The universe is winning.

        • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          Is dropping a smartphone from a standing height the work of an idiot? Sounds like something a smartphone designer might say, but I think OPs point is valid. Don’t even get me started on cases. Eventually history will look at smartphone cases the way we look at plastic on furniture from the 50s.

  • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    Uh, not really what planned obsolescence is.

    Though I do wonder how much more durable they would be if corning made it 1 mm instead of 0.4 mm thick.

    Manufacturers can also improve durability by recessing the screen slightly into a plastic frame, that way when the phone drops on its corner or side on a hard object, it will reduce the likelihood of it cracking.

    • bleistift2@feddit.deOP
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      2 months ago

      Uh, not really what planned obsolescence is.

      You’re right, but I couldn’t think of a short term for this. I found ‘bad’ design too broad, and it’s not ‘hostile’ design either.

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    2 months ago

    I agree that there should be phones that prioritize sturdiness for clumsy people, but I see things like sturdiness and waterproof capabilities used as an excuse to get rid of useful features, and I don’t like it. I’ve had cell phones for over 2 decades, and I’ve never dropped one; having an SD card slot and headphone jack is much more important to me than durability, since I rarely hold it over water, and always make sure to keep a solid grip regardless of the circumstances.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      Samsungs have been advertising water resistance to 10m for yeeeears with headphone jacks and sdcard slots. It’s not exclusive.

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        2 months ago

        Meh, I can see that, my dad is the same way, the trick is he hardly uses one and treats it like an OSHA situation when he’s operating it.

        TBH it’s not the worst habit to have.

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    2 months ago

    Yeah, no. The forces of suddenly being stopped even after a few feet can be extremely difficult to mitigate. Most electronics can survive being dropped once, but few are able tp be dropped multiple times, and ‘withstand being dropped’ sounds like it would cover multiple drops.

    The surface matters too. Most electronics are fine dropped on carpet, but fail on concrete because the surfaces are different.

    • bleistift2@feddit.deOP
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      2 months ago

      I’m using my old Nokia to this day. And why? Because “suddenly being stopped even after a few feet” wasn’t “difficult to mitigate” for Nokia. In the last 15 years this thing must have survived more than 100 drops, sometimes down a staircase. When I pick up the back cover, the battery and the SIM card, it’s as good as new.