The worst part about criticizing Israel and Biden is the quality of people who think you agree with them on other stuff…
I criticize both a lot, and have gotten some horrendous replies from people who assume we share other beliefs.
Against genocide -> antisemitic
Against antisemitism -> islamophobic
Shame on you OP, shame on you.
Why shame on OP? They’re saying that being a true progressive means being against all forms of hate.
I believe the comment you’re replying to may have been using rhetorical devices that we humans call “humor” and “irony”
Ah, makes sense. Apologies, I’m dumb.
Getting irony or sarcasm over text is hard. I’m autistic and more often than not I simply can’t “read” deadpan humor at all, I just take it at face value – much to the hilarity of my friends
My god, does that mean they are a hatephobe?
Reminder that Zionism was built upon antisemitic myths of Jews and non-Jews cannot live together.
Well the track record in Palestine isn’t very good
Before the genocidal entity and the Zionist ideology, Jews and others lived together in that region
Clearly the solution is for someone else to control them
Are you advocating for the reestablishment of the Caliphate?
That or the British Empire. Either one is fine with me
Wonder why
Because both sides hate each other to a degree where they’d like to exterminate the other ones? If that’s not the answer then it sure doesn’t help
Zionism =/= Judaism
I hate Zionism, and while I am not Jewish, I have a few friends of that faith and I will not see them slandered, mocked, or made to feel unwelcome in this world.
Same here. I am partly jewish. My great grandmother died in the Holocaust. And I am very anti zionist. And definitely not antisemitic. I have a ton of books on jewish life and history.
I’m a professional hater, I spread hate all over the world
If I was Israeli leadership, I:
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Wouldn’t have ignored clear, specific intelligence reports warning of an imminent attack.
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Would’ve had stronger border security, if national security was truly a concern. (what good did all that IDF do if not at the point of entry of their most imminent threat?)
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Wouldn’t have played into Hamas’ hand and retaliated in knee-jerk macho-man authoritarian fashion. In the event I didn’t prevent October 7th I wouldn’t have invaded Gaza but instead condition Palestinian statehood on Fata or PA taking over while simply utilizing the military forces committed to invasion to defending the narrow border.
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Wouldn’t have committed dozens of October 7ths against the civilian population in response, dwarfing the original terrorist attack.
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Wouldn’t have created the conditions for radicalization to fester in the first place by, you know, annexing land, killing more civilians both pre and post October 7th, imposing blockades, and actually supporting the most radical groups while ignoring the less-radical (reminds me of how the US handled Syria).
Nuttyyahoo’s actions are so counterintuitive I have to question whether this is all just an example of the shock doctrine.
but instead condition Palestinian statehood on Fata or PA taking over while simply utilizing the military forces committed to invasion to defending the narrow border.
But the whole point of Israel nurturing Hamas was to destroy the authority of Fatah and the PA so they WOULDN’T have to negotiate for an actual two-state solution.
And the whole point of ignoring the intelligence about the impending attack was to have an excuse to flatten Gaza. At this point I wonder if Israel even needed an excuse, considering the shit they’re getting away with anyway
Don’t forget the bonus benefit of getting Trump elected!
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Just want to point this out, but Palestinians are technically Semites.
I’m against both obviously, but I thought it was important to point out that the Jewish people themselves are anti-semitic for their genocide.
Just worth pointing out: the Israeli government are anti-Semitic. Many Jewish people (especially outside of Israel) are opposed to this genocide.
I don’t think the problem is the lack of real progressiveness, I think the problem is with an attempt to gaslight it from both extremes. Just got banned from worldnews (again) on completely gaslit reasons because of criticism I was making against the Act.IL remnants operating over there. Downvoting into oblivion isn’t enough for them anymore.
I’ve also noticed comparable instances of shadow removals from the other side of the coin in [email protected] where they similarly gaslit their reasons. I’ve sort of decided if both sides are going to be this putrid, then I’m going to step out of their propaganda wars, and gotta say, the Mossad side is rapidly losing ground regardless of the advantage they might have had.
But that’s not what our glorious leader said!
I’ve been assured that “Death to the Jews” actually means “Israel is bad”, and that ethnically cleansing Israel isn’t antisemitic because “It’s only Israeli Jews” who will be ethnically cleansing, and Jews in other countries will be left alone.
Nobody is saying that, shithead
And I’ve been assured that “Biden should stop supporting genocide” actually means “I want LGBTQ people to be killed in the US.”
Now I wonder which user keeps saying that.
Don’t know why you’re bringing this up to me. I’m in support of Biden stopping support of genocide. I’m just not dumb enough to think that helping Trump get elected is anything less than support of genocide here at home.
The reason I bring it up to you is that you consistently interpret anyone saying that they don’t like how Biden supports genocide to be nothing other than complete cultish support of Trump.
Sorry for having a sense of pattern recognition and seeing when people peddle the same tired “BOTHSIDES” points over and over again and feign innocence when called out on it, I guess?
Dude, you say it to anyone who expresses any misgivings at all about Biden’s support for genocide. That’s not a pattern. That’s you losing your shit because someone doesn’t like genocide.
Uh huh.
I can’t help it that I can recognize patterns.
