• Optional@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    Okay, then what’s his appeal? Being a conman? A rapist, a fraud, a habitual liar, unbelievably vain, a pedophile, a barely literate narcissist?

    Being a traitor, a useful idiot, a seditionist coup-plotter, an election stealer (failed)?

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      His appeal is the same as Bernie’s was. While most oligarchy controlled politicians refuse to recognize how shitty things are, Bernie and Trump got up and said what everyone who lives in the real world knows to be true: shit’s fucked up. The difference was that Bernie recognized it’s the oligarchy (including Trump, even though he’s kinda his own oligarchy) that’s fucking things up, while Trump just let the racists and misogynists and bigots choose whoever they wanted to blame and agreed with them. After all, he couldn’t point the finger at himself (probably literally, since he’s a narcissist his brain won’t let him).

      Basically he recognizes that their lives are shit, and gives them license to openly blame whoever they want to blame. Thanks to decades of Republican bullshit, they tend to want to blame anyone who’s not a white Christian.

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      Do you guys not know what “appeal” means?? He is all of those things at his core, but do you think 50% of voters are like “I LOVE THAT HES RACIST!! I LOVE THAT HE LIES ALL THE TIME”. Your viewpoint is ignorant and dangerous.

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        Lol, then what are they saying?

        We know they aren’t literally saying those words, but that’s because they do not think they are racist.

        They think it’s okay to discriminate against someone because of their skin color or nationality. It’s their right.

        They think it’s alright to impose their beliefs on others without middle ground. It’s my god’s word.

        They think there’s nothing wrong with a little sexual abuse and misconduct. Happens all the time, get over it.

        They think those things, and they are of course wrong. So while they don’t use the words you describe in your comment, in actuality, that is indeed what they are saying.

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          Even if everything you said is true - that’s still not his appeal to his base. Those are things that they are comfortable writing off due to his actual appeal. His actual appeal is something that you and most commenters on reddit would never verbalize because you’d rather stick to your simplistic worldview that every single trump voter is a racist, misogynist, etc.

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              Feel free to Google “what do people like about Donald Trump”. Nothing I say will change your mind about half the country being racist misogynists and nothing more. Just living villainous caricatures.

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                  4 months ago

                  Christianity, for sure. But maybe if you’re trying to actually find out what people like about Donald Trump, every single one of your sources being “people who hate Donald Trump” isn’t the smartest approach.

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                I’m not saying they don’t care about things. I’m saying they’re deliberately and in the face of plain, factual evidence, supporting a rapist who attempted a coup of the United States.

                Does that make them racists and misogynists? I guess it depends if supporting racism and misogyny makes one those things.

                But the racism and misogyny are anchors to what, for lack of a better expression, is trumps “appeal”. If they can’t see that, they’re either refusing to see it or are genuinely stupid, or are wildly misinformed.