• DRx@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    There are more than 10,000 stars for every grain of sand on earth… If only 0.00000001% had a habitable planet, there are still millions of habitable planets in the universe. Is earth rare? Yes, but to say that proves the god of the bible is a real entity, is more than a ridiculous statement.

    Furthermore, once I learned about the miller-urey experiment where it was shown that amino acids (building blocks of proteins and DNA/RNA) can be spontaneously created by simple gasses like methane, ammonia, and Hydrogen, it was all over for the thought of an intelligent creator.

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      1 year ago

      Agreed on the thrust of your comment but i also saw that a few changes to the nature of earth and everything changes. For example, a bit bigger and we could not use a rocket to leave orbit as it would exceed the power ratios. A bit closer to the sun etc.

      And the fact that it took 4bn years.

      The raw maths produces alot of planets but they still have to be Goldilocks

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        We couldn’t use a chemical rocket correct. A bit bigger meaning about 6x the size of earth by mass if I remember that article correctly. Nuclear rockets would be all we have, you know that tech we looked into and didn’t pursue over 60 years ago. Unless of course we really only accepted rockets instead of using plain ballistics and orbital machines. I don’t know why you think it matters to some god that we go into space, nothing in the holy writings of humanity indicates that. Also if that was the goal I doubt NASA would have been stuck in LEO for 52 years and counting.

        You are right you need a lot of things to go right to get us. Here is another fun fact. Take a deck of cards and shuffle them. The odds of that combination is 1 out of 52!, which is about 1.24e-66%. Put another way, imagine a 1% of something happening, now imagine some event is a 10 million billion billion billion billion billion billion as likely as that happening, that number is the odds of that particular deck existing. And yet a particular arrangement happens thousands of times a minute.

        Just because any given outcome is unlikely doesn’t mean no outcome is possible.

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      1 year ago

      Sounds like confirmation bias. Agnosticism is probably the most reasonable take you can live by. If there’s a universe so unimaginably big, how is it impossible to think there could be an entity so unimaginably beyond our existence. As we are to bacteria, say.

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        1 year ago

        I think the vastness of the universe makes it even less likely for a creator being, due to the pointlessness of it all. If there was a god they could make our galaxy work without a universe to support it, and we wouldve never been the wiser.

        It is more likely that natural forces due to physics and chemistry created the universe, the galaxys, our planet, and us. There is most likely some constant expansion and contraction that repeats, which continues the cycle of death and rebirth over and over again forever. There is no beginning and there is no end, there is no purpose except for the purpose you make for yourself and your loved ones.

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        1 year ago

        I agree in a way. We really can’t rule out a being superior to us so far ahead that god is what we should call it.

        Now when someone blows up a building with a backpack bomb or criminalizes birth control do you think that their definition of God is that one?

        Arguing these hypotheticals is fun but it is academic.