Someone clearly doesn’t understand how much it used to cost to travel by plane 50 years ago.
Also this image is bullshit
Tray tables are about half that size now.
Not on longer flights. It doesn’t benefit airlines much to make smaller tray tables
Save on weight means save on gas. Multiply that by thousands of flights and it adds up. United printed their in flight magazines on lighter paper and saved hundreds of thousands of dollars, just by using thinner paper.
They only eliminated 5kg per 737, but that added up to $290k savings.
If anything I think it’d be even more effective on longer flights as those jets spend more time in cruise vs short haul airliners.
By using lighter paper to print their in-flight magazine, Hemisphere, United Airlines saves up to 170,000 gallons of fuel, which cuts about $290,000 in annual fuel costs.
One magazine is now one 29 g lighter and weights 195 g which will make a usual 737 plane that carries 179 passengers 5 kg lighter on average.
https://www.kiwi.com/stories/united-prints-lighter-magazine-saves-170000-gallons-fuel/
Good example, aviation is probably the most penny-fucking business in the planet, it’s a life and death fight between the companies, trying to keep costs low.
United makes 50B in revenue a year. I’m guessing that stunt gave them more value in marketing than actual savings.
You clearly do not understand basic math nor how rampant greed in capitalism works. Sad.
If it saves them money, they WILL do it. (or even appears to save money)
Or do you think Scrooge types aren’t literally known for penny-pinching when they’re already rich and wouldn’t even notice the pennies going missing?
I suppose I don’t take many long flights and I don’t recall how much space I had on the last long flight I had.
Typically on my domestic flights I have a tray table that won’t fit my switch if I want to stand it up.
For the OP of this meme, you know you can still pay for food services on flights today, right?
Yeah but it sucks.
Ehh…
The bottom line
Proportionally (inflation considered), flights are much cheaper now than they were 50 years ago. Consequently, flying is a more accessible mode of transport for many and has resulted in the soaring popularity of air travel, which began after deregulation. However, despite the cost drop, the base cost of flying has increased as airlines operate small profit margins and seek to remain competitive.
But back then the price was regulated so they had to compete on service.
That might have been more that 50 years now.
It’s a shit post
Would probably be better if it still was. Less people would fly.
We are too reliant on air travel as it is. With the advent of the internet we should reduce air travel down to permitted leisure/visiting family and migration. Businesses should be able to video confernced most transactions. The situations where you absolutely need on site representation can be reduced drastically.
That is, if you took climate change seriously.
HA. So look, I do agree. Problem is businesses don’t care, even if we do. If you figure out a way to stop management across way too many professions from holding hour long meetings to talk about some data point that has so significance to what is actually happening, and those “leaders” who call meetings early to get the team together, when the whole damn thing could be in an email…yeah man, when you solve that, I’ll work with you to solve the rest.
Ok, but like I’m not going to solve it. It’s not also going to be solved today. I’m just saying you want to gripe about your shitty airplane experience like we need to make it a luxury resort when really we need to stop pumping carbon into the atmosphere.
Businesses should be able to video confernce most transactions.
Almost everyone who travels a lot for work wants this too.
Plus, high-speed rail is better for the environment.
Not having to do unnecessary travel at all beats every transportation mode…
Yes, and necessary travel doesn’t need to be via car or plane.
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Lol. “The environment can suck my big fat cock. I need to go to Jamaica, NOW!”
Thanks for the laugh.
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I do have a selfish reason; and it’s not because I don’t vacation. It’s I travel for work and that shit is exhausting. Anyway, you’re acting like you care so go and give this a read and leave me alone you dope.
Wait till accelerating climate change makes leisure flights a thing of the past in the next decade or so, along with tame weather and dependable agriculture.
Our species is done, thanks to mindsets like yours.
a thing of the past for poor people, anyway.
We were too conservative in our estimates and other accelerating factors, like loss of the reflectivity of our arctic regions, have entered the game.
This stuff doesn’t go away on any human perceived timeframe even if we stopped entirely. Our beloved capitalists will be able protect themselves for a couple more decades beyond us peasants, but their luxury bunkers with ironically self-sustaining agricultural sections will effectively become the tombs of the families most responsible.
We were just smart enough to make technologies that helped us today and doomed us tomorrow, and still too bone dead stupid not to stop/drastically reduce using them upon discovering the consequences of their use.
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Cheaper innit.
Succinct
It can be extremely luxurious if you pay.
I’d rather get to my destination with my wallet still in tact, but you do you.
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The people in the top picture still fly like that.
The people in the bottom picture couldn’t afford to fly at all in the past.So I remember taking a flight 10 years ago and they gave us pretzel pieces from snyders. I thought, great, we don’t even get whole pretzels…
Next flight, they give us generic “trail mix” in clear bags. The kind the old folks down the street would give out at Halloween because it was “healthy.” but that contained approximately 2 pretzels the size of quarters, 3 peanuts, 3 generic m&ms, and 2 raisins…
It gave me the impression that airlines are like schools, where the flight staff are the ones bringing in the snacks because the airline is too cheap to supply them.
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My teacher friends live in big houses and travel all over the world but you know whatever. I don’t.
Liar.
My grandparents were both teachers and are rich. Granted one was a professor, but the other a public school teacher.
In any case, anecdotes do not and cannot disprove the actual statistics.
Also, if you live in a country that actually respects intelligence, I’d HOPE your teachers are actually paid well. Sadly, the US despises intelligence right now…
In dying rural areas in the US teachers are generally some of the best paid. Its mostly in cities where their pay lags. But no, they live in the US in LA(CA, not the state). Also, FYI just because I live in one country doesn’t mean its the same my grandparents live in.
Ahh yes, California, a state that pays more, AND in LA, where wages are WAY higher because cost of living is way higher…
Thank you for describing why your anecdote is an outlier and DEFINITELY doesn’t prove any norm.
Thank you for describing why your anecdote is an outlier and DEFINITELY doesn’t prove any norm.
Where did I say it was the norm??? You called someone a liar for giving an anecdote. Outliers do happen…
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No thanks, you’re probably terrible in bed.
Airliner ticket prices used to be regulated. So when all airlines had to charge the same price, they had to find other ways to be competitive in order to bring in customers. Deregulation in the 70s brought ticket costs down but that means ticket cost is now the primary point of competition between airlines and amenities now come at a steep premium.
Yep, you can have it one way or the other…cheap flights or super luxury and only the rich can fly. Planes are not cheap to operate and fuel isn’t free.
And CEO bonuses and shareholder dividends must always be high-flying.
But even with that margins are tight, so 99.5% of why your flight is expensive is that planes are not cheap to operate and fuel isn’t free. But we can pretend it’s all the other thing to maintain slave morality.
Also when was the last time an airline stock paid a dividend? I’m sure one of them pays dividends but most pay dividends never.
Also when was the last time an airline stock paid a dividend?
Delta is paying a dividend of $0.15 per share in August. Southwest paid $0.18 this month. Spirit used to pay $0.10 but I don’t think they do any more.
But on the plus side normal people can use air travel now.
I’m not so sure that is a positive. Airplanes are huge emission drivers and our dependence on the convenience of air travel has caused us to cease investment and innovation in other more efficient and environmentally friendly methods of travel.
No doubt there’d be a lot more support for high speed rails if airplanes weren’t as accessible. IMO airplanes should only really be used for intercontinental travel.
When you factor in the number of people the airplane carries, they are about 3 times more efficient than a car with one person in it.
Note they mentioned rail as the desired alternative, rather than cars.
Just saying, compared to driving, airplanes are usually better. Also trains in the US suck. Much slower, and almost comparable in price to air travel.
Also trains in the US suck. Much slower, and almost comparable in price to air travel.
It doesn’t have to be that way, many other countries have solved those issues. But because we’ve leaned so heavily on air travel to get us to places only a few hours away by land there hasn’t been any incentive to innovate or invest in other forms of long-distance mass transit.
Seeing as I can see my family and not be homeless, I consider it a positive.
Are you saying a high speed train to your destination wouldn’t also solve that problem? It would likely end up being cheaper to travel via rail considering the lower costs of maintenance and fuel, meaning further accessibility than we have today with our dependence on air travel.
Yes I am, as most trains don’t cross oceans.
That’s fair, and please note that I mentioned air travel has its place in intercontinental travel in my previous comment. The whole point I’m trying to make is that domestic flights between areas that could support high speed land travel infrastructure are wasteful.
Even within continents, high speed rail is expensive, many cities and towns aren’t large enough or near large enough cities to make it practical. This would mean distant connections on slow trains and very long journeys.
Eh, if you’re looking for the cheapest ticket available you can’t really expect luxury. Airlines are competing with prices, so all luxury goes off the window like a passenger on a Boeing flight
Cuz first class used to be the only class.
Stupid. The cost for flights then was more like beyond first class prices now.
Stupid. The cost for flights then was more like beyond first class prices now.
And a lot more smoky.
This reminded me of that one flight as a kid, when I was seated in a row with two smokers. I literally couldn’t breathe. I’m happy that my kids don’t have to experience shit like this.
Don’t like the smoke? Then sit on the other side of the aisle in the non-smoking section.
Because our children’s children will still be paying the tab for that unsustainable opulence. Fuck they’ll be paying the bill for recreational air travel with only pretzels.
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here, getting a drink that’s not water.
You guys get snacks?
With Ryanair I’m thankful that they have to offer a seat.
There’s no snacks. Maybe a mini bag of pretzels if the flight is over 5 hrs long.
And you get that for free? That’s wild! I really mean that I’m happy Ryanair has to offer me a seat
Y’all know you’re allowed to bring your own food right?
Not drinks though. Man, that time our whole family of five got detained for an hour and given the bomb sniffing treatment because my wife brought a tube of baby butt cream that was a 1/4 ounce too big
The amount of people who think flying is a normal thing. One percent of the worlds population produce 50% of aviation emissions. And most off the worlds population never fly in their life.
When the corpo wars start I’m just going to shoot them out of the sky
people would rather be assfucked by a super sonic wheel than be fingered by the TSA
