cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/782760

the proposal is from a red-hat team member and is proposing addition of “privacy-respecting” telemetry. here’s the link to the hyperkitty thread

  • mrmanager@lemmy.today
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    1 year ago

    Opt out?

    All of this should be opt in. It says something about the culture once again. Microsoft also does “opt out” instead of in, which is morally wrong.

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      1 year ago

      You are right, but Microsoft allows you to opt out of some of the data collection, but it can never be fully disabled by traditional methods.

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      1 year ago

      Did you even read it?

      Some guy sent an email to the mailing list suggesting that could collect stats on whether Fedora runs on spinning rust anymore and if people struggle to find settings.

      It’s a proposal, no one has even voted of whether it’s a good idea. And the suggestions also involve you running your own telemetry server instead of using Fedoras so you can see what sort of software is more popular in your organisation.

      You are reading far too much into a project that doesn’t have to accept anything that Red Hat suggests.

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          1 year ago

          Sorry, upon reflection that seemed quite strong. However the reason the suggestion for opt-out rather than opt-in is you end up with a self selected group which is basically worthless. The proposal isn’t to hide the opt-out, and in fact have it as part of the setup flow but they are trying to gather useful information.

          This isn’t like Microsoft who will send telemetry data back home before giving you the chance to fully remove all telemetry, or Ubuntu sending data to Amazon before you get to uninstall the Amazon lense, or whatever they are doing these days.

          They will respect your decision. If not then we can always just leave.

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            1 year ago

            Fair point. I guess it’s easy to overreact to these things since we are all tired of not being respected privacy-wise.