John Deere brags about sabotaging competitors & customers on hot mic - they’re PROUD of it!

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    Corporations would have us all subscribe to the oxygen supply if they could.

    Take apart all the things. Reverse engineer their shit. Create open alternatives. Fuck all these monsters. John Deere, Apple, Samsung, Sony, Nintendo, everybody included.

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        To be fair, there is a use for it. If your at high altitudes, it may be needed. Hopefully no one should need it to deal with pollution though.

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          In this particular case its intended literally as portrayed in the Spaceballs movie which is what makes this whole thing appalling.

          But yeah, theres other use cases for bottled air.

          Maybe companies that manufacture and sell oxygen tanks can get in on the game by driving out of town 20 miles and bottling that air out there and marketing it as ‘Great Outdoors’ bottled air

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            In areas with bad air, 20 miles is not “out of town.” But companies that bottle oxygen already have the equipment to purify the air even in the middle of that smog.

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      There’s a CEO in The Corporation (2003 documentary) who literally argues that everything should be monetized. Including air…

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      Corporations would have us all subscribe to the oxygen supply if they could.

      Elon Musk’s X Mars Colony, coming in 2040.

  • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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    Sounds like another industry in dire need of competition. Makes sense that they’re fighting tooth and nail to keep a deathgrip on what they’ve still got (for now).

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      There is competition - New Holland, Massey Ferguson, Case IH, etc… The problem is that despite all the anti-consumer nonsense John Deere still tops the lists as the best option.

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        Deere has the most massive dealer network in the U.S./Canada. So when looking for a part farmers have an easier time finding them. In other places of the world the competition is much more fierce and they don’t compete as well.

        As for quality of equipment, Deere makes stuff about average. It’s not terrible but it’s not great.

        Other companies have specialized in some things and make vastly better equipment.

        New Holland/Massey F has the best swathers and bailers.

        Kubota has the best small tractors.

        CLAAS has the best choppers and combines.

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          Deere has the most massive dealer network in the U.S./Canada. So when looking for a part farmers have an easier time finding them.

          I have no doubt that this is caused at least partly by the decline of keeping spare parts on the shelf in a warehouse, something most companies did before everyone shifted to ‘just in time’ inventory management because it saved money up front.

          But as it turns out ‘just in time’ doesnt work so great when a farmer needs a part right this moment since it relies on ordering then shipping only whats needed.

          It probably made Deere’s dealer network look pretty good by comparison since they (presumably) stock parts that another farm store down the road doesnt carry.>

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          I wouldn’t trade our 569 for anything else. We’ve had Case and Heston balers, they’re kinda meh and break way more often than if seen on our Deere’s. As for the rest, well parts availability is king.

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        I’ll move my goalposts a bit then. The industry needs more significant competition for that top spot. It’s not an area I know much about though, just what I’ve picked up from discussions like this about how they respond when people get the crazy idea that they own the equipment they paid for.

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        query because I am not a farmer: Is Deere tops because they make products that are superior / better bang-for-buck, or is it just hometown advantage of no shipping/delivery overhead, tarrifs/taxes/import fees etc?

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          Honestly I don’t know. All three I listed are American or have American production facilities (New Holland was founded in PA, and still has a facility there, but is owned by an Italian company).

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    Fuck John Deere and their anti-self repair bs.

    The individuals using these machines don’t have time to wait for some tech to find the time to get to BFE, Kansas.

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    I’m sure those competitors will successfully sue them for <1% of their yearly profit in damages, plus they’ll suffer a single employee’s salary amount in fines.

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      Lol he actually made a video about it once because people kept asking him. He said that he went to a doctor and they said he was just ugly.

      I dont watch this guy’s videos that often, but coincidentally I saw that one.

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      probably a combination of fatigue, aging and genetics, there’s nothing wrong with it

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        I said nothing about it being wrong. I genuinely wanted to know because he’s the only person I’ve ever seen with these constant fatigue eyes.

        • Obinice@lemmy.world
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          Check out Steve Mould on YouTube, his science explanation videos are actually fantastic, and his eyes look like he’s not slept in a week, permanently. Just how he looks, it’s so strange 😂

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      It’s not easy being the only man in the world fighting for right-to-repair laws. Every company he exposes, more life is drained from behind his eyes.

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        Soulless company used life steal.

        Joke aside , his work is really impressive but his fight is already lost if most people just consume ( unrelated , fuck printer companies ) and accept their fate. We need aware citizens and there’s not many of them. We’re kinda doomed.

        People accept DRMs and planned obsolescence as if they can’t fight them. They don’t know their strength and thzt if they decide to boycott these shitty companies they’d die.

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            Erm… That’s a thing, but lay a little more context on us.

            Hochul isn’t enough to sink the movement, at all. We’ve conquered a foothold into enemy territory (and I mean those words), it’s been sabotaged to be smaller than expected, but so it goes.

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              I mean moreso on the life steal;

              He’s been dealing with NY screwing him for years after they misfiled his business - they didn’t merge his temp license into his actual license once he received it, so when he filed taxes it only applies to the real business license and not the temp license. Because he had the real business license, he no longer had access on his account to see the temp business license. That temp business license then started missing years of tax filings, and they put a lien on his business. Once again, he never knew because he didn’t have that business license on his account. Also, he did not get any mail because whoever fucked up merging the licenses in a spreadsheet did it to 400+ businesses and also replaced the address for all of them with some random PO box in another state. That meant that for years he’d been getting denied for loans to try and expand his business unlike other businesses in the same field, because of something he could never have known about. The only reason he did find out was when he decided to move his business to Texas for a number of other NY related reasons (e.g. them trying to stop him doing business for selling abandoned laptops because he didn’t register them even though he didn’t need to, not giving or responding to inquiries for permits, etc.) And only then once he sold his business and had 1M sitting in his bank account did the bank act nice and give him am agent who then relayed that there had been a lien for almost a decade

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                Yeesh. People wonder why us new Yorkers are such hard-asses out of the gate, then you see this kind of fuckery.

                Nobody protects us better than ourselves, especially when it comes to the shitbag NYPD.

                Thanks for the background on that, his shop wasn’t the only one getting the squeeze that I used to frequent. I mean hell, Chinatown is a shadow of it’s 1999 self.

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      he looks normal to me. he looks like he is not wearing makeup while on a camera, but aside from nixon comparisons that isn’t a crime.

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    I remember my grandpa casually telling a story one time when our family went out for pizza. He talked about how all the farm animals in the village and surrounding villages in Mexico suddenly died, and then John Deere came around selling tractors. This would’ve happened around the late 1950s I think. I have no idea if this is true or not.

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    I’ve never had need for a tractor, but if I did, I wouldn’t buy their shit.

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        This is inherently a political issue, because partisan policies enable this sort of abusive behavior from John Deere in the first place.

        If you can’t see that, then you don’t understand the full breadth of the situation being discussed, and probably should avoid commenting on it. There’s no point in popping into a conversation to say “I don’t understand anything that’s going on, but here’s what I think about it anyway”, because nobody cares for uneducated opinions. Unless you’re just fishing for an internet argument, in which case I recommend maybe just sticking to a Roblox forum or something else that’s more to your speed.

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      Is it? I don’t remember seeing a guy running for Congress that promised he’d prevent huge corporations from running rough shod over everything.

      People like saying stuff like “just vote better”, but the fact is the vast majority of people that run for any office are pro-big business because that’s their background and the lobbyists give them lots of money to get elected. Where’s the anti-big business guy going to get his money to run? And without money, you sure aren’t winning.

      Through lobbying, corporations have us all by the balls. It doesn’t matter what side of the isle you’re on; both sides have basically been endorsed by big money.

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        Campaign finance reform is necessary to tackle big business interests out for regulatory capture. Shift some of that subsidy into funding campaigns so the little guy stands a chance against them and their billionaire club.