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Russia’s Luna-25 spacecraft has crashed into the Moon after spinning into an uncontrolled orbit, officials say.
The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon’s south pole, but failed after encountering issues as it moved into its pre-landing orbit.
It was Russia’s first Moon mission in almost 50 years.
The spacecraft was scheduled to land on Monday to explore a part of the Moon which scientists think could hold frozen water and precious elements.
Roskosmos, Russia’s state space corporation, said it lost contact with the Luna-25 shortly after running into difficulties.
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Normally, I’d say that it’s a great shame that a piece of valuable scientific equipment was lost and that it’s a massive loss to humanity as a whole as the international scientific community is usually able to co-operate regardless of boarders.
But this time, Russia said they won’t be sharing any data gathered from this probe with the international community and would be keeping it all to themselves so suddenly I don’t give a shit.
I agree but I’m also happy that Putin doesn’t get a win by presenting this as “Russia is great and all because of me”.
Reminds me state TV propoganda “no Putin - no Russia”.
Technically he won, otherwise it was vicroty of science over Putin’s corruption.
I’m huge space nerd, but I personally wouldn’t say that loss of space mission is a loss for humanity.
If the James Webb had failed to deploy, I would have been fucking pissed. That would have been a massive loss for humanity.
A random moon probe, not so much. I’m almost happy Russia is denied the good space PR and nationalism bump.
Maybe they actually found something amazing and this is a cover story so we dont try to force them to share it.
you didn’t put the ‘/s’
How much data did they gather from the probe?
I wonder why. Maybe they were going to sell it to China? Or maybe putting random sycophants in the position of running their space program leads to this type of political stunt.
Russia
Well, enough to not give a shit lol.
Well, they actually hit what they were aiming for at least.
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Oh no, don’t worry, they’re still doing that
So you’re sure it wasn’t supposed to crash on Ukraine?
Sucks for the scientists / engineers.
I wonder how long until we start hearing about them “falling” out of windows.
They are likely going to be drafted…
maybe that already happened to some of them and that’s why this happened
Unlikely, Russia wanted that PR.
I wonder how long until we stop hearing these stupid jokes.
When the mob that runs their stops fuckin doing it
Jokes?
It’s probably too early for this to be a reason for the crash, but Russian brain drain after their full-scale Ukrainian invasion is real.
Brain-drain is going for last 20 years of Putin presidency
Any setback for science is a setback for humanity… but at the same time, Russia fucking up is not totally unexpected.
Well, if 80% of budget is stolen for new Rogozin’s mansion, I’m surprised it didn’t explode at lauch pad.
The “Kaputnik” has landed.
This made me laugh more than it should.
Boy, that Russian missile REALLY missed the pre-school in Kiev they were aiming for.
*Kyiv
This transliteration is so freaking weird. Letter Ы should be agreed to English Latin alphabet.
There’s no bI in Ukrainian.
There is Ы sound. Which is how Kyiv should be pronounced.
Ukrainian И produces near-front near-close unrounded vowel.
Russian ЬІ produces close central unfounded vowel.
Do not pronounce Kyiv with the latter. The articulation is just not as comfortable as the native one.
Russian to Ukrainian mapping: ы - и и - i й - ï
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Well, Russia certainly lived up to its reputation.
Maybe we can give the moon lander the benefit of the doubt and assume it spotted a rock that looked like a children’s hospital, prompting a change in priorities.
They rushed a project to compete with NASA’s VIPER rover and just wanted to be first.
They were also trying to be the Indian team, who are taking a longer time using gravitational whip to send their mission to the Moon’s pole.
They were actually always pretty good at unmanned missions. This was the same design from the 1970s.
Yeah historically we’ve used them a ton for collaborations in space architecture. I can’t share too much but my team has worked with them, before my time, and they refused to make any advancements in certain systems. Since then collaboration has been incredibly difficult but not because of Russia’s engineers.
That is basically the rough history of our planets space exploring ventures. American/russia one upping each other.
Well, it worked quite well during Soviet times.
Laika is still up there and happy…
There’s no sources on this that I could find and It’s definitely a weird thing to claim.
Why is it weird? Russian and American scientists have been competing for decades
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They will say Nato/US/Ukraine hacked into the spacecraft and made it crash. You heard it here first.
Essentially my narcissistic ex: everything bad that has ever happened to her is someone else’s fault.
so you’re saying Steven Segal likes Russia because it’s sort of a home for Narcissism… yeah, i guess i can see that…
You chose Segal over Trump for narcissists sucking on Russia’s tit?
Porque no los dos
oh yeah, forgot that one
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Let’s bet on money? I think they won’t.
Huh. I don’t see any hexbears or Lemmygrads on this thread. Interesting. Can’t complain.
God it is validating to see you say that. I’m new to the platform, reddit refugee, and am bombarded by what appears to be hard core communists. It’s exhausting.
They are not communists, they are russian apologists.
They’re tankies.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a communist.
Putin-fans and Russian bots can go eat a dick, though.
There’s nothing communist about today’s Russia.Also the fact that they all act like /r/the_donald trolls
Nothing makes me less inclined to hear out your opinion when you’re acting like a middle schooler whose trying to look cool in front of his friends lol
Tankies used to care about communism. Now they’re just anti-western. They will not question if Russia or China are actually communist because it doesn’t matter. They don’t care about worker protections or freedoms. They only care about “owning the west.”
Yeah I find them rather funny… I’m antiamerican and leftist but many seem to think that it’s a binary and we must choose.
Having actually lived and worked in China for the CPC, I find their idolizing of the modern Chinese nation-state a bit laughable
Fuck Putin, fuck Stalin. Peace to world, glory to science and production, mechanize ancillary work, reduce manual labour.
Here’s a little bit of communism you didn’t want.
Those communists are the ones who built the platform you’re speaking on.
Not communists. (Also, most of them have never made a commit. They didn’t do anything.)
Sure, the original developer runs Lemmygrad. Doesn’t matter. The great thing about FOSS is that no one owns it. There have been many contributers, not just the first person. Also, anyone can fork it if things go bad. No one owns FOSS. You can use it and contribute to it, but you can’t own it.
I don’t care about their personal beliefs of any one of the contributers. As long as the software works, that’s fine. I like rocketry, but the nazis contributed a lot to that. It doesn’t matter though. It doesn’t change the function of it.
And? I made none of the claims you’re refuting. I just meant this place wouldn’t exist without some of these “communists” and since they made it and were here for years before most of us, it’s not surprising there’s a lot of communist content.
God it is validating to see you say that. I’m new to the platform, reddit refugee, and am bombarded by what appears to be hard core communists. It’s exhausting.
Those communists are the ones who built the platform you’re speaking on.
I just meant this place wouldn’t exist without some of these “communists” and since they made it and were here for years before most of us, it’s not surprising there’s a lot of communist content.
You sound like you’re implying that because they made significant technical contributions to useful software, then that automatically validates their political beliefs, and /u/[email protected] should just put up with it.
Unless you want to be in a bubble, I think we should at least have the option to be able to put up with people who have different opinions (regardless of whether they made the software). There are walled gardens like Beehaw for those who want a more filtered experience. The Fediverse is big enough for both of us.
Sure, and the software is pretty good. Nazi rockets were also good. It doesn’t mean anything else is good or valid about them. I don’t care if the creator is a tanky (definitely don’t care if they’re a communist) to enjoy the software. It is a useless point to say they created it as a way to justify anything else being good.
It’s an appeal to false authority and therefore unrelated to the conversation.
It doesn’t mean anything else is good or valid about them
Did I praise someone? I noted that some communists built this platform that’s why you see them here.
It’s an appeal to false authority and therefore unrelated to the conversation.
I did what now?
Sure, the original developer runs Lemmygrad. Doesn’t matter. The great thing about FOSS is that no one owns it. There have been many contributers, not just the first person. Also, anyone can fork it if things go bad. No one owns FOSS. You can use it and contribute to it, but you can’t own it.
You sound like communist
Yeah, I would mostly agree with that. More of an anarchist bent, but sure. I’m not a tanky. I have no issue with communism, but I do have an issue with authoritarianism, especially authoritarianism that uses the name communism as a cover while not protecting worker rights and freedoms.
And? They don’t run anything but their own instances.
Its FOSS. they don’t have any ownership over the platform as a whole. If they started trying to fuck with the lemmy source code for their own agenda, then we’d just fork it and carry on as before
Is someone claiming that communists are fucking with Lemmy code? Where did this come from?
No not at all. The core contributors of lemmy just happen to be communist
They’re all hiding because they’re ashamed.
There is nothing communistic in Rogozin
They’ve been real quiet since that probe dropped 😂
Isn’t Lemmygrad defederated from this instance
Could be. They aren’t on my home instance. I’ve seen several threads about this and literally none of them, as far as I could see, had any comments from them.
LMAOOOOOO
Seems like russian science is as shit as russian military
Well then they just send 1000 probes and I’m sure one will work eventually
The quality of Russian science is irrelevant when 99% of funding goes into building new palaces and buying yachts.
Don’t forget about brain drain.
The majority of Russians with any braincells (or money) have already left the country.
Yeah, brain drain is real. Every Russian I know from IT sphere has left. Many left after 2014 , everyone else left in 2022. Every person with a brain doesn’t want to associate with the regime in any way and doesn’t want to suffer.
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It’s roskosmos being roskosmos. I’m surprised it didn’t explode mid-air.
Roskosmos is usually pretty competent.
I mean, they helped build the ISS (and a lot more) and have sent a lot people up there for YEARS without any fatalities.
^^^and ^^^no ^^^I ^^^dont’t ^^^like ^^^Russia.
They call it a successful missile strike on the moon and they’re back to winning again.
The Lunar War over minerals is going to be so fucking stupid and fun.
There probably isn’t a worse war in terms of property damage per money spent to damage it you could come up with. Setting up a system of mining minerals, sending it back to earth, and making money on the process is going to be the biggest megaproject you can imagine. All of it very easy to break.
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No no no, the moon illegally and meanly crashed into innocent Russia’s poor little defenseless space robot without any provocation!
Robot Fedor)))))))
“Today, Russian engineers managed a perfect example of Lithobreaking on the moon, showing the superiority of Soviet cosmonautics.” – Russian News Outlets
What, invading Ukraine wasn’t enough and now they need to pollute the moon with their piece of shit spacecraft too?
Fuck Putin, fuck Russia, etc, etc.
Slava Ukraini!
It’s interesting, I was watching a video about Russian history and apparently Ukraine hated Russia for the famine in 1932 and 1933. So when the Nazis rolled into Ukraine they were welcomed as heroes. Historians believe that if the Nazis had worked with the Soviet satellite nations to create buffer zones around the Reich that they potentially could have created a good defence barrier to Soviet aggression. Similar, of course, to how NATO works today.
Instead, the Nazis, in their infinite stupidity, wanted to exterminate Slavs and create lebensraum, so they united the Ukraine people with Russians for 75+ years. Ukraine even handed away their defensive capabilities (nuclear weapons) to Russia in exchange for a permanent peace pact. And Russia went and blew it all and created enemies again.
Must’ve been a Ukrainian
hospitalmilitary base there.
