This cannot really come as a surprise to anyone who has been paying attention.

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    Reminder that this is why the right wing calls everythinga slippery slope. Because that’s what they want to do so they project that everyone else wants to do it too.

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    This is SCOTUS bait. This is to overturn the Obama era legal same sex marriage via SCOTUS decision

    This is going to be more “states rights” bullshit…until they can force it on everyone

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    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist-

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist-

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew-

    And then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak

    ~Martin Niemöller~

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    I am lucky enough to live in New England which is pretty left-leaning but I’m scared that my rights will just slowly be stripped away just because I’m bi. Fuck the SCOTUS and fuck Republicans.

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      Same. Keep an eye on how they’re going mifepristone and abortion rights at a federal level in regards to how they will subvert “protected” blue states.

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    Does the person posting this think that people that support gay marriage don’t also support trans and abortion rights?

    It’s not a very good told-you-so when the people you’re told-you-so-ing agree with you.

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      It’s more common than you’d think. There’s a disappointingly high number of transphobic gays and lesbians, and there are definitely people who are pro-gay marriage who are anti-sex worker. I definitely think it’s rarer for people to support gay rights and not support abortion rights though.

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      I routinely see in and amongst the right wing protesters where I see gay men holding up signs that throw trans people under the bus. A lot of the attitudes in gay bars can be hostile and misogynistic towards trans men too.

      They get to feel respectable so long as they are the ones participating in the oppression and the bigots get to use these people as shields - “look how reasonable we are, we have gay people who support us SEE ?!” but it’s all disposable. Once they’ve successfully oppressed the people on the outside the Conservatives turn to the next layer of the circle in reverse order of acceptance. Suddenly the bigotry is at the door for the idiots who supported them and their friends who were using them as shields don’t need them anymore.

      The Nazis did this too. Gay men joined up with the brownshirts hoping to find safety and acceptance in the ranks. They participated in the dismantling of their own communities and then the minute they were judged to be no longer useful they were purged and executed in the Night of Long Knives.

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        The Nazis did this too. Gay men joined up with the brownshirts hoping to find safety and acceptance in the ranks. They participated in the dismantling of their own communities and then the minute they were judged to be no longer useful they were purged and executed in the Night of Long Knives.

        I feel like not enough attention is paid to this fact. The gays were some of the very first inmates in the camps with their assigned pink triangles, and transpeople were there as well. (Germany is where many of the very first trans operations took place in the 1920s, and where the trans pioneering doctor Magnus Hirschfeld lived and worked until the Nazis burned his offices and he went into exile). All the “degenerates” the Nazis could round up.

        And the very distinction some gay people think makes them better or more acceptable or protects them today – “I’m gay but not trans” – made ZERO difference to the fascists. If someone was not cis/het then they were labeled a “degenerate” and that’s all there was to it: they got thrown into the very same camps for the very same reasons as the people they despised.

        When you know your fascist history, and how close we are to recreating that here in the US today, and you understand just how realistic and true Niemöller’s words became in the end, then you not only know the eventual fate of groups like the Log Cabin Republicans, but also that they tend to be first in line for the camps because they’ve already self-identified for the fascists, and have made themselves the easiest, lowest hanging fruit to grab.

        Once they’ve successfully oppressed the people on the outside the Conservatives turn to the next layer of the circle in reverse order of acceptance. Suddenly the bigotry is at the door for the idiots who supported them and their friends who were using them as shields don’t need them anymore.

        Truer words were never spoken. Excellent post. Thank you for taking the time to write it, because I don’t think it gets brought up often enough.

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        They’re also extremely biphobic, so I guess the B in the name is just there to prevent an electronics company from suing them.

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        It’s not implying that republicans got to power because of gay votes, but rather that organisations such as the LGB Alliance and the multitude of TERFS that have helped this happen through advocating against Trans folk. They’re not the sole reason, but they’re still a big part especially when they’ve attempted to fracture progressive movements.

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      Yeah, who told whom what exactly? Seems to be implying that LG don’t care about BTQ+, but this move is entirely consistent with Republican / right ideology, which LG hasn’t never been a big part of.

      It’s never been a secret either. It has been an explicit and public position of Republicans (and part of SCOTUS) since forever.

      Same sex marriage has only been legal in all 50 states since 2015. Does anyone really believe that Republican leaders and the new right-wing SCOTUS miraculously changed their minds after Obergefell v Hodges?

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      Lots of TERFS are lesbians who hate trans people, trans women in particular, and want to make sex work illegal.