Now they’re clearly the 2nd strongest military in Ukraine.
Delusions like this are sending Ukranians to pointless deaths right now.
The worst part is you will never stop to consider the implications of being so wrong on this when the war is finally resolved (with Russia and Ukraine in basically the same territories as now). Instead, you’ll toss this one in the “history” pile with Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc., you know, the wars where you tell yourself you would have seen through the propaganda had you witnessed it in real time. Then you’ll cheerlead the next war because It’s A Good One This Time.
Delusions like this are sending Ukranians to pointless deaths right now.
Delusions like “a 3 hour special military operation”?
Yeah, I’m the one with delusions, not the country that’s shooting itself in the dick, and literally assassinated several of its citizens in this post without any due process whatsoever.
The war clearly isn’t going as well as Russia wanted, but it’s delusional to imply that they’re losing or weaker than the Ukrainian military. They still control significant chunks of Ukraine. The Ukrainian Summer offensive has failed. Russia’s in a better place than Ukraine is right now. From a pro-Ukraine stance you should realize that Ukraine’s position is still quite perilous.
Putin reportedly said. “But if I wanted to, I could take Kiev in two weeks.”
Besides the issue of not being able to verify this was actually said, “if I wanted to I could take Kiev in two weeks” is a lot different from “this entire operation will be over in three hours.” “If I wanted to” in fact implies taking Kiev was not a goal, which aligns with it not being officially stated as a goal.
You put it in quotes and called it a special military op instead of a tour, so it was a little bit obfuscated
Edit: not that you meant to, of course, but it is what it is
As an aside, I think Putin was probably right, but under the condition that he carpet bombs multiple major cities from the first available moment. The war is brutal, but Russia has not been carpet-bombing for a litany of reasons (and it is good that they aren’t)
Lmao so now you’re claiming Putin was using some old English idiom in a private conversation with a Portuguese politician? Then said politician quoted Putin as saying a different phrase?
HA. Sometimes I think people forget how time works. That we did not watch russia make these statements in real time and somehow reddit would come into it as if its mere existence is an augment.
“I would like to emphasise once again that our men and officers are fighting in Ukraine for Russia, for a peaceful life for the citizens of Donbass, and for the denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine, so that no anti-Russia, which the West has been creating for years right on our border, can threaten us, including with nuclear weapons, as has recently become the case.”
Delusions like this are sending Ukranians to pointless deaths right now.
The worst part is you will never stop to consider the implications of being so wrong on this when the war is finally resolved (with Russia and Ukraine in basically the same territories as now). Instead, you’ll toss this one in the “history” pile with Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc., you know, the wars where you tell yourself you would have seen through the propaganda had you witnessed it in real time. Then you’ll cheerlead the next war because It’s A Good One This Time.
Delusions like “a 3 hour special military operation”?
Yeah, I’m the one with delusions, not the country that’s shooting itself in the dick, and literally assassinated several of its citizens in this post without any due process whatsoever.
The war clearly isn’t going as well as Russia wanted, but it’s delusional to imply that they’re losing or weaker than the Ukrainian military. They still control significant chunks of Ukraine. The Ukrainian Summer offensive has failed. Russia’s in a better place than Ukraine is right now. From a pro-Ukraine stance you should realize that Ukraine’s position is still quite perilous.
Yes, you have deluded yourself into thinking Russia said this. I guess reddit said Russia said it, so that’s basically the same thing, right?
And tell me more about your thoughts on countries that assassinate their own citizens without due process. What kind of countries do that?
https://time.com/3259699/putin-boast-kiev-2-weeks/
Besides the issue of not being able to verify this was actually said, “if I wanted to I could take Kiev in two weeks” is a lot different from “this entire operation will be over in three hours.” “If I wanted to” in fact implies taking Kiev was not a goal, which aligns with it not being officially stated as a goal.
3 hour tour is an old English idiom, I can understand if it’s unfamiliar to you.
You put it in quotes and called it a special military op instead of a tour, so it was a little bit obfuscated
Edit: not that you meant to, of course, but it is what it is
As an aside, I think Putin was probably right, but under the condition that he carpet bombs multiple major cities from the first available moment. The war is brutal, but Russia has not been carpet-bombing for a litany of reasons (and it is good that they aren’t)
its hilarious people who goad putin for not waging war like america does, which is just to kill everyone without consideration
Lmao so now you’re claiming Putin was using some old English idiom in a private conversation with a Portuguese politician? Then said politician quoted Putin as saying a different phrase?
Truly wonderful, the mind of a liberal is.
HA. Sometimes I think people forget how time works. That we did not watch russia make these statements in real time and somehow reddit would come into it as if its mere existence is an augment.
So link the statement
Here you go to start:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220308032650/http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67903
Parts to note:
“I would like to emphasise once again that our men and officers are fighting in Ukraine for Russia, for a peaceful life for the citizens of Donbass, and for the denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine, so that no anti-Russia, which the West has been creating for years right on our border, can threaten us, including with nuclear weapons, as has recently become the case.”
And the words “Take Kiev” are to be found…where?
How do you demilitarize a nation? After invading part of it?
Maybe take the capital and force change?