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Actually, my teenage years (1980s) were that commies are bad. Everybody hated communists and I don’t think I heard the term Nazi even once outside of Grade 10 history class.
The 1980s obsession with Russia and commies set back North America in terms of worker rights and social programs for at least half a century, if not longer.
Fear of communism has fucked up the US in so many ways. Before the 80s, it was McCarthyism and putting “In God We Trust” on our money.
That was on our money by 1865.
If only Stalin were in charge. That guy would have actually built a wall instead of this pussy ass Trump shit. Comrade.
Stalin was ruthless, not stupid. He would have looked at the existing barriers and realized that it would be a waste of resources to try to build a wall in the middle of a desert.
Wolfenstein The New Order: Nice! Killing knot-zees like it’s 1992!!
Wolfenstein II The New Collosus: what is this woke anti American shit/why can’t we play as the real “good” guys
Gee. Somewhere between the release of these two games public opinion changed. The first came out in 2014, btw. The second’s ad campaign had “Make America Nazi Free Again” as a slogan, something that id thought we’d all agree. Nazis were in that safe group of “enemies we can slaughter without guilt” alongside aliens, zombies and robots.
I got banned from reddit for saying: Wolfenstein The New Order is one of if not the best game of all time, the only good nazi is a dead nazi. GET HYPED!
I mean, I’m happy they had an implosion, but it should have been because of the nazi sympathy, not because of their api.
Getting banned for being a Basterd is a badge of honor my good person.
BJ Blazkowicz wants his scalps.
Well one cost “the right people” more money than they were willing to give and one didn’t. It’s almost like money doesn’t matter until it matters to the gawd, it sounds crazy to say it, it’s so dystopian, shadow governments’ corporate overlords. Lives otoh… shudder
New Colossus came out in 2017. We all know what happened that made being a fascist piece of shit mainstream.
The second’s ad campaign had “Make America Nazi Free Again” as a slogan
Gee, that wouldn’t happen to be a poke at a particular presidential campaign?
It can only piss off Nazi sympathizers tbh. I mean If you believed that America was going downhill and wanted to make it “great again” surely making it Nazi Free would be part of that goal right?
Unless… 🤔
when it comes to woke its not what you see. But what you not see.
I would love old school arcades. I feel like, most people today just don’t know what a wonderful place they used to be.
No stupid toys to win. No tickets. No tokens or any virtual currency.
Most games were a quarter with some of the larger ones being two quarters. You just hung out, played games, met new people, got to experience a wide range of games from shooters, side scroller fighters, sports, etc.
It was truly magical. Was one of the best things at the mall.
Go to a barcade? This concept still exists. It is just for adults now.
Most of them are free play with $20 entry. There are so many barcade near me - I don’t even bother with the ones that charge quarters. It was a rip off back then, and it’s still a rip off now
Wait, didn’t the arcades literaly have coins-for-lives system?
Yeah, the games would allow you to continue from where you died for another quarter, as long as you got it in fast enough
Remember the panic you felt as you tried fishing around for a quarter while watching the timer count down?
This entire “ANTI-WOKE” is just some bullshit that the most ignorant bigots hide behind thinking they can be as fucking awful as they want to be.
Anti-woke is just another word for brain damaged
It’s almost like a spectrum with anything outside what I’m comfortable with is where I draw the line, especially if I’m dabbling or experimenting with anything that makes me vaguely uncomfortable, because what I’d people get the wrong idea that I’m “that,” isn’t it? The slider moves, everyone!
Don’t know about USA, but in Germany the inflationary use of “Nazi” by leftists weakened the term a lot. So if someone is called a Nazi, you don’t have to assume anymore it’s a bad person. I believe it will be impossible to turn that back.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept_creep and https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aap8731
More tolerated? Let me know when the nazi’s win an election
Braydox on his way to the camps: “Okay, but they haven’t actually killed us yet, so are they really Nazis?”
It’s awfully convenient that your criteria for “Are Nazis a problem” is “Have they already won”
Ah yes being sceptical of a random online photo is clearly the same as being skeptical. You need to work on your bots ai as it foesnt seem very good at responding to context
You: “Let me know when the nazi’s win an election”
Me: “It’s awfully convenient that your criteria for “Are Nazis a problem” is “Have they already won””
Don’t see where a ‘random online photo’ comes into it, but I suppose I shouldn’t expect too much of enlightened centrists who carry water for Nazis.
Right so you arent responding to this conversation. If you were you would have the context needed to understand and not make insert bot upset claims and hyperbolic strawmam claims
You can go down the reply chain and check. There’s no image here in this comment chain. In the future, since you apparently cannot distinguish between multiple conversations, you should probably stick to replying to one person.
Ah perfect evidence.
Let me introduce you to the AfD that already occupy a few local constituencies.
By all means a quick google seaech tells me they are cringe but not nazi’s
https://taz.de/AfD-Parteitag-in-Magdeburg/!5947746/
The party is full of (Neo)Nazis, even in high ranks; one of them may even officially be called Nazi. Their whole program and style is essentially NSDAP playbook.
The most nazi thing in the links you provided were the government banning certain slogans.
What is your definition of nazi as that will probably explain a few things.
You had use of a banned slogan. A nazi accusation, party memeber leaving due to claims of right wing infiltration.
None of that is evidence of them being nazi’s. Sus for sure but pretty weak.
I just did another quick google search regarding the somewhat recent arrests from that attempted coup. Albeit they were former members of the party so i guess too extreme for the AFD. And well not very competent or numerous.
But thats kinda something.
They are against immigrants, want to suppress freedom, want to separate kids with disabilities from other kids in schools, etc. They not just tolerate but supports Nazis like Höcke, who btw. told an inteviewer once that once he’s in power, the interviewer will regret asking those questions.
I mean sure, we can pretend that they are not as bad as the NSDAP was back then and do the same thing we did with the NSDAP: giving them power. But then we will just end up with the next Nazi government like last time. I would prefer not to.
I agree it used to mean actual, armband wearing, genocide creating, goose stepping evil people that started WWII.
Yes today there are still people who somehow support that shit with the books, flags, tats and armbands to prove it. There is a term for it. Neo Nazi. If you want Nazis to punch these are it, though it might not make them any less of one.
Now by that standard is Trump a Nazi? No. But some throw the term around to essentially mean group=bad. The left crazies do it with nazi, the right crazies do it with communism. Over time it loses meaning to the point where nobody takes it seriously. Boy who cried wolf. The way to stop that is to only use the term on the real people, not the kinda sorta if you squint your eyes it’s similar in a way people. Not to say they they aren’t assholes or don’t deserve to be called out by other terms…
Anyway yes people hate the real deal Nazis, but probably not every group someone on twitter slaps that label on to. End rant.
Trump may not be a Nazi or a Neo-Nazi, as those are extremely specific subsets of Fascism. Trump is an authoritarian fascist. His TV series proved that well before his second or third presidential campaign.
I agree. But he’s also not “actual Hitler” as many have said over the years. It’s different levels of asshole and I wish people had more nuance is my point
Idk, he wanted to order the military to go in with weapons blazing at blm protesters. Defended those who marched and chanted in Charlottesville that “Jews! Will not! Replace us!”
He may not have the name hitler, but he seems to love that stuff. Oh yeah and covered up (has something to do with?) Kashoggi being quartered, alive when he himself couldn’t listen to the tapes of the sounds of agony. What exactly would earn him “Nazi” status, in your view?
It’s almost as if there’sa term for right wing authoritarianism/authoritarianism, isn’t it?
Similer circumstance in russia. Where everyone bad and aganist russia is a nazi. Ukraine needing dezafication. Etc since from their perspective its only ever been Nazi’s they had no red scare since they were the red scare
And what! Is wrong with Zafication?!?! I’ll tell you something, if you’ve got a problem with Zafis, then you’ve got a problem with me! I suggest you think about that! /j
Damn zafi’s
Also terms like “grammar Nazi” is helping to weaken the seriousness of the word.
In Denmark people sometimes use it to say that somebody is quite particular about something (similar to “grammar Nazi”) like " yeah, he’s kinda Nazi about people not wearing shoes in his apartment" I don’t know if that’s common in other countries too? But it’s definitely weakening the gravity of the word 'nazi".
And I’m here wondering if Godwin’s idea came because he saw something like this and wanted to stop it or if he saw an opportunity to silence criticism of Nazi-like strategies.
And I’m not sure if I should be happy or sad that we’re in a post-Godwin world now. On the one hand, it was a dumb “rule” because there’s certainly times where Nazi comparisons are apt. But on the other hand, we only got post-Godwin because Nazi ideas have regained enough popularity that some are openly embracing the label.
I see facist pedophiles who are also extremely racist against non whites daily in Montana. Is that a Nazi?
Anyone who apologizes for Nazi ideologies is a Nazi. They are spreaders of the Nazi intellectual contagion.
Never forget.
Just FYI, it’s fascist
Was supposed to be racist child molesters. Will edit. Not that racism and fascism isn’t the same.
It’s exactly the same here in the US. Anyone right of Bernie Sandars was called a Nazi for a few years there (happens less today, but still happens), so now when someone shouts nazi, everyone just rolls their eyes.
I don’t roll my eyes, I just ask what precisely they mean when they say Nazi, and usually precisely what they mean by whatever word they use in that response with a flexible definition. Because it could literally be anything between “murder anyone who isn’t straight, white and Christian” and “not as progressive as Biden”.
To be fair, basically the best thing we can say about Biden is that he’s not a Nazi.
I mean, he essentially campaigned and won on not being Trump. He’s been competent enough in office though.
“Inoffensively competent” is about the highest praise I’d give him, and it’s deeply sad that that’s a substantial improvement over his predecessor.
I’ll give Trump that not everything he did in office was terrible - he did sign the FIRST STEP Act which was broadly a good thing, and I approved of the Devos Title IX policy changes, and that’s about it.
Biden isn’t progressive. He’s kind of socially left and economically right.
Didn’t Chris Matthews have a meltdown during the 2020 primaries when Bernie won Nevada, because he thought the DSA was going to round people up and execute them in Central Park?
Ramifications of failures from education systems throughout the U.S.
Can’t be surprised that no one articulates themselves properly when the only things most of these people read are less than 150 characters at a time.
It also happens the other way: Sanders, Cortez are called socialists, and even refer to themselves as socialist. Neither are anything of the sort.
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No one relevant is pro-Nazi openly… they’re just quiet when it comes to being anti-Nazi. It’s not meaningfully different when you’re in leadership and have Nazis looking up to you.
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That’s not true. I see everyone around me promoting a lifestyle and ethics as desirable while on the dl living the lifestyle they decay. Which leads me to the conclusion it’s often not about what a thing actually is, but whether i can get orders to play the game of “it plausibly looks like x when it’s definitely y, upon closer examination, but no one cares as long as they can plausibly say it’s x when it’s most definitely y.
No one relevant is pro-nazi.
Trump has been explicitly pro-Mussolini in a number of interviews.
And he was clearly having a severe manic episode that people conveniently forgot, becuse mobs can’t handle nuance.
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I love how I got downvoted for saying “mobs can’t handle nuance”.
Obviously someone considers themselves part of a mob and was offended. 🤔
You’re getting downvoted because you’re arguing that being in some sort of manic episode excuses that shit.
Admittedly I don’t pay much attention to him, so I could be wrong, but I don’t think he’s tried to walk any of that back since then either.
I know I am.
I also know the people who are doing it have no fucking idea what they are talking about.
I would’ve said Heelies, but I guess that’s good too.
An overall disdain for anything too trendy or popular.
My teenage family members live and die by the trend cycle. Teenagers have always cared about what’s cool, but now the trend cycle is so fast it’s impossible to keep up without spending inordinate amounts of money and generating tons of waste. It also just doesn’t seem great for their self-esteem.
I was a teen in the mid-2000s/early 2010s hipster Tumblr era, which of course came with its own issues. But at least the trend cycle took a few years, and if anything I liked was unpopular I could just roll my eyes and say it’s just too obscure for you normies to understand.
I’d like this AND “Getting banned from a website requires you to draw unnecessary attention to yourself through misbehavior”
Yes I am STILL salty about the Reddit ban!
Don’t worry, this is only your FIRST ban in this beautiful and blessed Web 3.0 landscape. 😀
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If I lose Discord I’m killing myself
Most of my bans from Reddit subs were for things like posting on a different sub or my favorite “egregious immorality” (mostly because that one was from a sub you wouldn’t expect it from).
What finally got you the site wide?
so true, everyone LOVES nazis now!
Half the country, it would seem.
absolutely, you can’t turn over a rock without hearing a republican talk about how much they LOVE nazis!
The Toadies and Better than Ezra
Nazis, I hate these guys. - Indiana Jones
Hope for the future.
