“He did it too” is on no law book as a credible defense anywhere. It’s basically just self incrimination.
Remember, you’re arguing for the Rule of Law, which states that no entity is above the law and it applies equally to all. In an ideal world, Musk wouldn’t be getting away with this. But in an ideal world, CAH will also face scrutiny. As they should. Though I agree they are only asking for a “plan to vote” and it’s vague enough to probably be fine.
So again, in your prefered version of this, Elon AND Cards Against Humanity are punished for breaking the law.
I’m advocating for a version of events where CAH doesn’t face penalties because they don’t commit a crime themselves. Want to advocate? Sure. Pay everyone who writes to their senator/congressperson about what Elon is doing and demand action. Something that’s legal. Get the same point across while not dragging the bar ever lower.
James Cameron can only dive so low to retrieve it again.
First, one case does not guarantee the same outcome in another, so there’s no certainty that any case against them would have any effect on musk at all.
Second, this is not the election to fuck around with anything even remotely vote manipulating. It’s already going to be a shitshow if trump loses. Having an actual, public statement made like this means it’s even easier to raise issues not only legally, but in the kind of minds that have already shown willing and able to attempt to invade the congressional building to attempt to kill people and gain power.
You might argue that that’s already damn near a guarantee of being repeated, and you’d likely be right, but you don’t throw gas on the fire for a publicity stunt.
There is absolutely no way this is a win for anyone.
First, one case does not guarantee the same outcome in another, so there’s no certainty that any case against them would have any effect on musk at all.
nothing is certain of course, but precedence is a very real thing in law.
Second, this is *not* the election to fuck around with anything even remotely vote manipulating.
i disagree that there’s much to worry about here but it’s a fair point.
I might agree there wasn’t much to worry about, except it’s already happened.
It hasn’t even been 4 years since January 6th 2021. But it’s been years where the people that organized it, and had plants in place, to plan better.
That’s the kind of thing that I’m talking about. While that’s going to happen regardless of this publicity stunt, or not happen regardless of it, it could be made worse.
The last time shit went down, trump and his far right supporters had to rely on outright lies. Shit like this could be enough to sway people on the fence into a more radicalized mindset. While it could be argued that if shit goes down, and if they fail, then those edge cases are better off being swept up in it and imprisoned after, I think that’s a very dangerous argument. I don’t like ifs when it comes to something this risky.
and that would be a win, because Musk is essentially doing the same shit.
edit for clarity: the win would be setting a precedence so musk or anyone else would be open to suit/prosecution too.
“He did it too” is on no law book as a credible defense anywhere. It’s basically just self incrimination.
Remember, you’re arguing for the Rule of Law, which states that no entity is above the law and it applies equally to all. In an ideal world, Musk wouldn’t be getting away with this. But in an ideal world, CAH will also face scrutiny. As they should. Though I agree they are only asking for a “plan to vote” and it’s vague enough to probably be fine.
i know it’s not a defense. the point is it would set a precedence, so Musk could be sued/prosecuted for it too.
So again, in your prefered version of this, Elon AND Cards Against Humanity are punished for breaking the law.
I’m advocating for a version of events where CAH doesn’t face penalties because they don’t commit a crime themselves. Want to advocate? Sure. Pay everyone who writes to their senator/congressperson about what Elon is doing and demand action. Something that’s legal. Get the same point across while not dragging the bar ever lower.
James Cameron can only dive so low to retrieve it again.
no, it’s not my “preferred” version, nor am i advocating for anything. i am simply discussing the possible outcomes.
i guarantee you CAH had a team of lawyers approve this before going public. some of y’all are overthinking it.
Lol
In the same breadth you dismiss everyone else as not lawyers and not knowing and then claim you know better.
Are you 12? 😂
the point is THEY know better than any of us. Work on your reading comprehension. and fuck you and your shitty attitude.
I would disagree for two reasons.
First, one case does not guarantee the same outcome in another, so there’s no certainty that any case against them would have any effect on musk at all.
Second, this is not the election to fuck around with anything even remotely vote manipulating. It’s already going to be a shitshow if trump loses. Having an actual, public statement made like this means it’s even easier to raise issues not only legally, but in the kind of minds that have already shown willing and able to attempt to invade the congressional building to attempt to kill people and gain power.
You might argue that that’s already damn near a guarantee of being repeated, and you’d likely be right, but you don’t throw gas on the fire for a publicity stunt.
There is absolutely no way this is a win for anyone.
nothing is certain of course, but precedence is a very real thing in law.
i disagree that there’s much to worry about here but it’s a fair point.
I might agree there wasn’t much to worry about, except it’s already happened.
It hasn’t even been 4 years since January 6th 2021. But it’s been years where the people that organized it, and had plants in place, to plan better.
That’s the kind of thing that I’m talking about. While that’s going to happen regardless of this publicity stunt, or not happen regardless of it, it could be made worse.
The last time shit went down, trump and his far right supporters had to rely on outright lies. Shit like this could be enough to sway people on the fence into a more radicalized mindset. While it could be argued that if shit goes down, and if they fail, then those edge cases are better off being swept up in it and imprisoned after, I think that’s a very dangerous argument. I don’t like ifs when it comes to something this risky.
The entire point is that when people get upset about this you can ask “why is it okay when Musk does it?”