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    It was fine. I’ve seen all the shows so I get the backstory and references.

    That being said, there are just too many Star Wars and movie cliches to be bearable:

    Oh wow she cut her hair dramatically, she’s such a rebel and such a badass. (Cheap and overused character moment)

    Staring pathetically at a spaceship flying away after a lightsaber duel (has happened four thousand times in Star Wars)

    “Get ready!”

    Lightsabers are harmless

    Fixing a bomb under a ticking time clock (false peril)

    Ancient artifact leads to the location of a place or character in the present (another cliche and cheap writing)

    Another star map mcguffin (overused cliche)

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      Did we ever get an explanation for why what’s-his-name had a map to Luke Skywalker in TFA? Why did Luke leave a map? Didn’t he specifically not want to be found?

      Back to Ashoka, why did the ancient nightsister temple have a map that lead to Thrawn, when he disappeared not even a decade before? Also, if someone knew Thrawn’s location precisely enough to map it, why didn’t that someone also try to find him themselves?

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        Did you watch Rebels?

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        There are space whales with organic hyperdrives. They grabbed Thrawn at the end of Rebels and took him to parts unknown (what we now know is another galaxy). The map appears to be an ancient record of their migration paths, so the presumption is they dragged him along their normal route.

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          This makes sense, but… I imagine the New Republic has easy access to the same information, and perhaps even more accurate or updated information.

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        R2 is a navigation droid, so presumably keeps a record of everywhere he’s been for audit trail purposes. He’s also (up until that point) never been memory wiped unlike C3P0, so having part of that route erased is a big change from previous canon.

        The map in Ahsoka isn’t necessarily a map to Thrawn specifically, someone else mentioned it being a map of migration patterns but equally it was mentioned in the episode that some beings travelled from another galaxy to the main Star Wars galaxy in the past. Morgan may just be assuming that’s where Thrawn was taken by the purrgil as they roam all over, so the map may be a bit of both migration patterns and a record of where the travellers came from.

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      They also over-did the other actors crossing their arms, but yeah this came out of the gate much more interesting than the previous Star Wars series

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      Good points, but you gotta admit, this is done much better than the other live actions (maybe on par with Andor).

      Sabine may have never seen anyone other than Kanen do the hair thing, and she wanted to get back to her old kick ass self.

      The “ancient” star map and location of a character that supposedly got there after the map was made is really annoying. It makes no sense.

      Also when the apprentice hunts down Sabine it felt like Maul hunting Padme on Tatooine.

      Lots of positives about the site though too, right? CGI is good, acting is good, nice call backs to Rebels and when Force Ghost Anakin appears I’m sure there will be CW references too. I like the friction between Ahsoka and Sabine, and the remake of the closing scene of Rebels toward the end of Ep2 was simple but nicely done.

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        Just because the characters thought it was a map to Thrawn they were looking for and it actually being a map to where Thrawn was doesn’t mean that it was created with that intended purpose.

        It seemed pretty heavily implied that Lady Morgan had supposed what happens to Thrawn and knew of the existence of this device that would let her travel to where she believed Thrawn was.

        Disney has taken a lot of creative license with Star Wars cannon, and has been very unapologetic about it. At first I thought this was another example of fuck the story we want to sell toys, the surprise tie in to the final scene of Rebels was well done and gave me some serious nostalgia vibes.

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    Thoroughly enjoyed it. My personal favorite of the live-action shows, as a fan of the Jedi and all things Force. The new concepts of a Jedi with little Force sensitivity and an entirely new galaxy to explore are intriguing.

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    I’d average the first two episodes as a B-.

    The pacing of the dialogue is off, and most of that could have been fixed in editing. That would largely help with the energy of the episodes.

    Rosario makes a great Ahsoka. Baylan Skoll seems like a pretty great character, and I find it sad that Stevenson died for the obvious reasons, but especially because I already feel like he’s a character I’d love to see much more of.

    People complaining about an ancient map leading to Thrawn and/or Ezra are missing that it’s not a map “to them”, it’s a map to something else that happens to be where they are.

    Excited to have a live action “night sister”, some (seemingly) grey Jedi, and a ?former? Inquisitor As representatives of non-Jedi/Sith force users.

    Weak points aside from the pacing:

    Over telegraphing the imperial folks on Coruscant.

    A bit too long spent on the Lothal highway scene which could have been about half as long, in fact the whole Sabine not showing up at the dedication was kind of pointless and it’s removal would have fixed a lot of pacing issues with the first episode.

    A little less explaining of Sabine by Ahsoka would have been fine. Just too much telling, not enough showing.

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    I like it so far. I really like Rebels so I was super excited for this one. I can’t wait to see the Ghost and Thrawn.

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    Loved it so far! Can only imagine how people who haven’t watched Rebels are dealing, though.

    Sad that Thrawn is where he is, though, as that almost certainly rules out what I was hoping to see in the series (being vague for spoiler reasons).

    spoiler

    Thrawn being in a completely separate galaxy pretty much rules out the idea of the Grysks being part of the story, and Ahsoka + Spectres would need to team up with him to defeat them in an enemy-of-my-enemy sort of situation.

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      Given what I’ve heard about Zahn’s involvement (or lack thereof), I have rather low hopes for Thrawn’s character in this one. Best to expect a more typical villain Thrawn and be very surprised if he’s more than just another adversary.

      I’ll admit that the first couple episodes have me slightly more optimistic, but only because I can see the “heir” references being a red herring and merely the expectations of those who only see the Imperial. Probably not though.

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        I have all my fingers crossed that we’ll see a more agreeable, Zahn verstion of Thrawn, instead of just a ruthless, ends justify the means kind of character.

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    I’d gone a little spur on Star Wars after the rise of skywalker.

    Honestly it felt like a return to form in many ways, and a little bit of a fuck you to RoS, “here’s how you do a map macguffin!”.

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    The little dedication to Ray Stevenson at the end of the first episode was nice.

    I’ll watch the season, because it’s only 7 episodes, but it seems like something that’s more for the die-hard fans than me (any criticism I could come up with is probably true for any number of other Star Wars projects)

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    It was below average. None of the actors captured the essence of the characters. I know it’s different as its live action but they were all so one dimensional and boring.

    Visually it was absolutely fantastic.

    Oh and the Inquisitor has to be starkiller.

    Let’s see where it goes but so far, hmmm.

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    It was fine. I loved Clone Wars and Rebels. But the acting in Ahsoka was just too muted for characters that have been far more animated in the past. No pun intended.

    I get that the characters in Rebels are supposed go be more grown up and the tone can be more serious, but the writing feels…I don’t know, stilted? And because of that the acting is sort of just meh, with the exception, funny enough, of Chopper…

    Anywho, I’m hopeful though. It looks to have lots of potential.

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    So in the first sequence they demonstrated how powerful the bombs in those hunter droids are… But then later just played around with one in a hospital, potentially risking thousands of lives.

    Even the robot suggested doing it outside.

    I don’t understand why the writers thought setting up the significance of that danger was worthwhile only to wave it away so casually and stupidly.

    Also when you detonate the robot things in order to kill someone - don’t make them have a five minute timer.

    What would be the point of that?

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    I felt like the “you did good” part of Sabine’s redemption arc was over-played versus the “you fucking idiot you took one of the most valuable and potentially dangerous secrets in the galaxy home with you, and you may well have brought a terror even worse than Darth Vader back into play, and you may have ruined our chance of getting Ezra back.”

    I’ve caught more flack for buying someone the wrong type of beer.