• phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    Doesn’t that go against separation of church and state, and if this is government pushed, isn’t this a first amendment violation?

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        Fucking hate this. There is a local public meeting that starts with a prayer to the Evangelical God in Jesus’s name that I’m forced to attend because of my job. I hate being essentially compelled to participate in prayer. The SCOTUS precedent supporting this is 100000000% Christian bias.

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          The SCOTUS precedent

          Don’t worry they don’t believe in Precedent anymore. You just need to grease their wheels. I hear it’s cheaper than you think.

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            It’s relatively cheap for their masters, but they won’t buck the leash that got them into their position

        • HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org
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          I would start invoicing people for your time until you get a legal cease and desist. Then sue them, just because they accepted responsibility.

          Make it cost them money.

        • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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          You could counter with a Baha’i prayer. They are still an Abrahamic religion, and they have literally hundreds of prayers for practically every topic.

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          And you can’t disrupt the meeting by interrupting the prayer until they kick you out, because then presumably your employer would fire you, I assume? 'Cause if not, you should definitely ruin their motherfucking christofascist bullshit.

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        The worst part is that for the people making these policies it really isn’t religious, just a thing they can trick followers with.

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      Look at the dollar bill. America has never given two shits about the separation of church and state.

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      The way it was worded basically said that it had to be the national motto, thereby not making it a religious text to bypass the concerns you mentioned.

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        What I don’t understand is how the national motto can be a religious one without breaking the first amendment.

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          It hasn’t reached the Supreme Court for a decision, but lower courts have basically said that it’s not establing a religion because it’s used in a secular and patriotic fashion. (My interpretation of my understanding of the ruling).

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aronow_v._United_States

          You can blame 1956 Cold War era Congress (red scare) and Eisenhower.