To be fair Lemmy feels like a brand new mall of stores with empty shelves.
A lot of empty stores, and then the big anchor stores are full of depressing doomer news articles
Don’t look in the changing rooms, they are all full of furries
Don’t forget the hexbears:
“You’re all warmongering fascists except Putin!!!”
I try not to label an entire instance, that’s like labeling an entire race, it’s not a healthy way to think about life.
Yes because fediverse instance is something intrinsic like skin colour
Yes because all analogies necessarily represent a 1:1 ratio of severity or scope 👍
Parent comment was pointing out that you pick what instance you use and there are a lot to choose from, so they tend to be fairly homogenous in views (exception being the largest few)
I think there band I haven’t seen any thing from them this weekend
Don’t. Don’t give me hope.
That’s the store that sells shoe polish.
Lol I forgot about those, I banned as many as I could.
And memes
It’s always sad when you go to a community for something you like, something that’s widely popular, and see the newest post is 2 days old.
Especially when you’re the only one posting. At some point, it feels a little like you’re spamming the sub, even if you are the only one keeping it active.
But when nobody comments on your submissions, is it even “kept active”? :/
Or it’s really a month old and it’s only maybe got about two responses. Makes me sigh sometimes and a little defeated in the idea of the fediverse but we’re all shoved into this position because the other platforms have sucked so much to have us here.
Pretty sure reddit was full of laments about Digg when that mass exodus happened. Stuff takes a while to build momentum.
Indeed. 90-9-1: 90% of the population lurk, 9% engage and 1% contribute. Source
And it’s like we have the inventory but nobody feels like stocking the shelves.
Hard truth? Reddit conditioned me to NOT participate.
Nearly time I wanted to discuss something or ask something important to me, my posts were deleted by mods. The few times posts would stay was because they were meme shitposts of easily digestible image content: scroll and move along. Any actual discussion was verboten.
/r/mk mods were particularly awful. Fuck those guys.
The thing you must understand about /r/mk is that it was largely sheperded by a man who was driven from the other major mechanical keyboard forums for being too much of a self-promoter. It’s possible the entire organization still has residual brittle-ego.
If you want proper keyboard discussion, do check Deskthority; the content is a lot richer than “here’s a photo of my board which is just a Taco Bell permutation of the current popular PCB/case/caps/switches”
I never knew that! Thanks for sharing!
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My least favorite part of Stack Overflow.
I hear you there. The last full time involvement of participating on Reddit for me was like a couple months ago. I couldn’t complain about my job anymore, like everyone else that normally complains about their jobs, without getting downvoted to oblivion over it. Why? Because “dats what reddit does!” is pretty much the only logic that it can boil down to when it comes to Reddit - it’s because that’s their bastardized logic and they happily carry it out. Just so anybody they don’t like, is discouraged from participating.
Everyone turns everything into an unnecessary debate because people want to sound smarter than they really are.
Lemmy doesn’t have the inventory. The userbase is tiny.
The userbase is significantly bigger than some fairly decent forums that I use or used to visit. The problem is rather the behaviour of the users (reddit started to favour more Instagram-like behaviour of scrolling and “liking” rather than normal forum-like dialogue, especially when you look at r/all, and I think we’re yet to grow out of it fully), and their relatively narrow range of interests (tech + political news) that leaves the other areas empty.
The user base of Lemmy may be bigger, but we don’t all share the same interest(s) the way people grouped on a specific forum would which does hinder it a bit.
Small communities are the best communities
Not when there is no content to read through.
Reddit is gentrification as a website
Lemmy is restoration
True, I just wish there was more content on some of the smaller niche communities but I guess that it takes time for it to grow and that doesn’t happen overnight.
It relies on people like you to spark discussion and content. Ask questions and interact with your favourite topics! Crosspost and shamelessly plug your favourite community (Shoutout to [email protected])
So get out there and make Lemmy the lively place you want it to be.
Well said. At this point there’s so much pre-existing content on Reddit that I rarely feel the desire to post or comment anymore. These days an upvote or downvote is usually the extent of my interactions over there.
Being part of this early, and relatively small, userbase on Lemmy means the content has to (gets to?) come from us. Instead of just scrolling through content we get to share interesting things and help build communities, and I find that rather exciting!
Oh and thanks for the link to the boardgame community!
We trying boii
The “mall” analogy works for Reddit because the point of it existing is to buy things there. Lemmy instances and communities only exist because people want to make space for conversation. If spaces are empty, I see that as a sign that someone, somewhere cares so much that they will happy build the space and wait for others to arrive.
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It’s really unattractive to be so obsessed with your ex months after getting into a new relationship with Lemmy. Can we move on please?
I was about to make a joke related to ex’s… then I saw your post. Thank you for saving me a couple braincells from frying themselves out.
I started a new job a few months ago and was on my first business trip with four colleagues recently. To make conversation I asked if anyone used Reddit.
• Two dudes had heard of it but never used it.
• One dude said he uses it infrequently because it’s turned to shit.
• One dude said fuck Reddit and it’s API bullshit.
• I said fuck Reddit and it’s API bullshit.
Thats my anecdote. 100% of the people in that car didn’t use Reddit or now hated it. Probably 3 months ago that same car ride would have had three people loving Reddit and advocating it to the other two.
Despite your experience it’s alive and well. If reddit is a dying mall what is Lemmy? To scale it’s like an unmaintained Porta potty.
I hate reddit, but let’s not be ridiculous. It’s more than fine. Google has really gone to shit. When people search for things they put in site=reddit as a more reliable way to find real information.
Malls didn’t die overnight, you know. It’s a downward spiral that takes many years when it starts.
Is there a downward spiral, though? Or did they just get rid of a bunch of (from their perpective) whiny, entitled, free riding, old-timers?
Reddit is fine if you only look at user numbers.
If you consider things like overall satisfaction with the site and profitability though, they are in trouble. That’s why they are introducing that embarrassing crypto shit, they are desperate to somehow monetize the site.
To make conversation I asked if anyone used Reddit.
You mean you asked “When does the Narwhal bacon?”, right?
Do you have stairs in your house?
I think that was before my time
The article is 2 months old…
Like most posts on the Lemmy front page!
Try using Active sort instead of Hot
At least the mall of Reddit is open 24/7.
That new mom and pop down the road seems to close at random times during the day. 😉
It’s like Walmart. Open 24/7 but full of shit garbage and shit people.
The Walmarts near me haven’t been open 24/7 since the pandemic. Definitely still full of garbage and shitty people, though.
You can use less overpopulated server
The instance I use is ran by a bunch of Unix nerds, so I’d expect them to wear their uptime as a badge of honour. I suspect there’s probably a sweet spot for instance size, where it doesn’t hit the biggest scaling problems, but big enough to justify the ongoing effort, rather than obviously being a one-man shop that will vanish when his cheque to Digital Ocean bounces.
Ahhh, defending reddit because lemmy.world is the target of constant ddos attacks? Just go to a different instance. Lemmy’s not closed. A single entrance is just being blocked by assholes who support billionaire-owned platforms.
It’s like a mall where the main entrance is closed for construction, but all the other entrances, including the entrances through different stores, are all open.
It’s more like a mall where the main entrance is being blocked by dipshit reactionaries and trolls picketing in front of it.
I used the construction analogy because they are at least trying to fix the DDOS issues, or at least that’s what I’ve heard.
😉
Is lemmy.world really that bad?
Lemmy.ca went out, like, twice in the time I’ve used it.
It is, loads for me about 70% of the time.
Very annoying to use.
What’s making you stay on lemmy.world?
already have an account, don’t want to go through the hassle of transferring it and recreating my subscriptions
There are tools to easily migrate your account now. It’s pretty effortless.
Small communities that are interoperable” is basically what Reddit is now.
Which is EXACTLY why federation fits the reddit style of forum like a glove, and why ultimately Lemmy is the path forward.
I’m also on Mastodon, and saw posts saying “you can follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon!” - and sure enough you can, but by god you shouldn’t unless you want your feed to be full of comments without context.
Yeah it’s kinda weird that from mastodon it boosts all the comments instead of just the posts. You can tap into the posts to see the comments anyways, can’t you?
This is the problem I’m having now and I don’t know how to go back.
💯
I think the thing that happened to digg is happening to reddit. It’s not surprising.
Reddit digged it’s own grave
Its* own grave.
*dugg its own grave.
What’s this about Dig Dug?
Why post an article from two months ago about a thing we’ve all accepted? I started reading and wondered what new drama occurred on that dying platform. Then it mentioned APIs and I checked the date. June. We’re almost in September. Eternal September.
Lemmy, can we do better? I came here to hang out with a scrappy new community of people excited about cool shit. Instead it’s a bunch of people bitching about Reddit and X. C’mon let’s make this place fun and exciting.
Sir, this is a technology sub/comm. It must be filled with articles about social media businesses at all times, or the ancient ones will get hungry.
There are plenty of budding communities in the federation. The Reddit and X posts are slowing down, so that is nice. Not so long ago, Lemmy was absolutely flooded by /c/memes, but other activity has started to balance it out. The main problem is that it took years to build some of the niche subs on Reddit so it will take time to get those started again.
An even better sign is that OC NSFW creators are showing up here more and more. Where they go, people follow, no questions asked.
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Don’t forget jerking off over Linux
mander.xyz is awesome, if you select by local you only get science posts from communities that are visited and commented on. programming.dev has some good communities too, that probably need some good comments and content so people don’t give up on them.
You need to pick your home instance well to have a good head start, otherwise, you’ll spend every day blocking communities that take up space in you discovery feed when you select by “all”.
This post is a total shitshow. I get the sentiment, and to some amount agree. But who the fuck wrote this drivel? its the worst shit I’ve read in seconds on the internet, and that usually takes hours.
Self Aggrandizing Self Posters… GFY
Weird, I thought it was a well written article.
Thanks lol
Look at fancy pants over here reading the actual article we’re talking about
Maybe an AI wrote it. 🥸
I’ve come up with the following rules for my own relationship with Reddit.
- I will avoid posting on Reddit.
- If I do post on Reddit, I must make a similar post on another forum, maybe Lemmy, maybe somewhere else.
Number 2 is important because it helps other small communities grow.
It’s not a problem if a lot of people post on one forum, but it is a problem if a lot of people post only on one forum. I wont allow myself to post only on Reddit.
That said, I haven’t posted on Reddit since June.
Deleted my 10 year account a few months ago. Haven’t looked back. Once in a while my google searches will point me to some reddit thread, and I’ll check it out, but I have logged in for the last time.
Same story here. Soon as they fucked around with Apollo I grabbed my towel and haven’t looked back. At this point my only interest is morbid curiosity about how bad it’ll get.
My rule is “don’t post on Reddit unless it’s giving a reason to delete it”
These posts are exhaustingly far from the reality of the situation. Please don’t make the fediverse kick the puppy that is your optimistic opinion, OP.
Edit: OP downvoted everyone who disagreed with him.
Edit: OP downvoted everyone who disagreed with him.
Sigh. Please OP, we’re not doing that here. Downvotes should be reserved for trolls and the counterproductive. This comment with its snappy “kick the puppy that is your opinion” is not the most productive, but there are downvotes from OP on way more innocuous things, even one comment that agrees reddit is dying but in a different way than the linked article envisions.
Please leave that behavior on reddit.
How do you know what did they vote on?
Dunno about over on lemmy, but on kbin we have an “activity” link on each comment exposing all voters.
Oh wow! Do you also see Lemmy users there?
Vote federation can be a little wonky, but generally, yeah.
How so? It doesn’t suggest “Reddit is dead/dying” but “Reddit is trending towards less cultural relevancy”
EDIT: I didn’t downvote everyone, but I did downvote you. Because you’re arguing points the essay wasn’t even trying to make, which gives a me the strong impression you didn’t read the piece in full.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/443332/reddit-monthly-visitors/
Their traffic is unaffected. Reddit has never been part of the public conversation, outside of its reused content on blogs and autogenerated YouTube content. It has never had cultural relevance due to its conspicuously self contained nature, despite its size. Shops have closed but are reopening and profits are consistent(ly absent) month to month, the exodus affected little. If I were to amend your title, it would read “Reddit has always been a dying mall.”
You’ve described the situation as dramatically as possible to the crowd most excited to hear it and I’m just tired of hearing “Reddit is dying.” It is exhausting. The article is a great summary of everything I hate about Reddit because it is intended to be.
Reddit has definitely had cultural significance. That’s why AMAs used to happen there so often and it was in the news for months after the Boston Bomber. It’s like 4chan in that it seems super niche but it pops up every now and then in the cultural zeitgeist, sometimes for bad reasons like The Donald leading the charge for a Trump presidency and sometimes for good reasons like the niche hobby subs.
This shit is from June lol
I left reddit after they killed boost. best decision I’ve ever made.
I think inevitably Reddit’s utter collapse will be power mods causing intense drama as well the mods who are actually capable of curating content properly having left. I was surprised no hate subs spawned from the migration away from reddit, but I realized something. The people who would likely moderate hate subs now moderate the mainstream subs. Shit is going to hit the fan.
I think the next time the owners do something stupid there will be a similar exodus, and there will already be larger alternative communities available than there were last time and more people will leave and stay left. I think it could also happen the same way more than twice.
That’s what happened with twitter and mastodon. People will come in waves.
Agreed, I think Reddit is going to die in fits and bursts and the fediverse will continue to build momentum with each wave. I think it’s arguable that we’re already starting to see this shift happen with Twitter and Mastodon. A behemoth like Reddit was never going to die overnight, but the users who really care have left or will leave soon. And it’s those users who made Reddit what it was, not its scale imo.
the best of the best are slowly decamping one by one. I see old communities on here all the time
Hah, so Reddit will force the crybabies to grow up or die trying, win-win!