I’m currently reaching season 3. Until now, the show has been nothing more than:

  • Over sexualized, useless scenes (sometimes in weird semi-assault scenes)
  • Horrible characters who are irrational, stupid, racist, incoherent and immoral (Reed apart, the guy is a full on nazi)
  • References to older shows, but without ever being coherent with them
  • Horrible morals, basically defending racism, sexism, slavery, etc
  • Empty episodes filled with either 10 minutes fighting scenes, sex scenes or “funny” scenes that have no impact

I’m probably forgetting a few points but that’s the core of it. I am confused as to why people even tolerate this show.

  • Especially_the_lies@startrek.websiteEnglish
    131·
    1 year ago

    “What’s with people liking the thing I don’t like?”

    Seriously, people. Can we not gatekeep Star Trek? Does Enterprise have its problems? Absolutely, but so does literally every other Trek show. Every series has its own ups and downs, and while Enterprise might have issues, it has redeeming qualities, too. No one is going to make you like Enterprise, but don’t be critical of other people because they like it.

    • Solumbran@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      32·
      1 year ago

      I’m sorry but scenes basically saying “slavery is fine” is not a matter of liking. Most of my points are not about liking or disliking episodes, but about factual problems that the show has, and while some can not be a problem for some people, most of them are not so easily dismissed.

      And I was not saying that I don’t want people to like it, I was saying that I don’t understand why

      • Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.websiteEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        I’m sorry but scenes basically saying “slavery is fine” is not a matter of liking.

        Mind citing the scene? Because I do not recall ANY such scene in Enterprise.

        Most of my points are not about liking or disliking episodes, but about factual problems that the show has

        No, most of your points ARE about liking or disliking it. You listed two objective complaints. Those being the hyper sexualization and the filler episodes. Everything else is personal opinion or misunderstandings.

        Also you didn’t phrase this “Why do you like Enterprise?” You phrased it “Why don’t you hate it?” There is a significant difference between the two. One is an open engagement/discussion on opinion. The other comes preloaded with judgment. You then listed several points bashing the show and indirectly insulted fans of the show.

        You don’t get to act extremely hostile and then get defensive when people point out your bias.

        • Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.websiteEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          It also wasn’t saying “slavery is fine” either. In fact, the entire point of that episode was screaming that one group of people were enslaved and how wrong it is.