I dunno. I just feel less like I’m experiencing a fun new tool for communication the last few weeks. The communities here on Beehaw are still great and fantastic and aren’t what I’m bothered by. It’s just when I venture out in the world (which I often do) that I notice conversations are much more argumentative than I remember them being.

How’s everyone else doing? Is this a minor vibez check?

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    I don’t get what the issue with be nice is… how far has society fallen that people can’t grasp and follow this one simple rule? Or that they feel the need to make fun of it and others who participate? I’ve noticed any time people come together to make a safe space or community the hateful people definitely seek it out to try and ruin it. It’s infuriating. Even if someone disagrees with being nice for some reason, they could just move along.

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      they could just move along.

      And that’s how you know those people are purposely being malicious. They want to ruin it for others because they think its funny to ruin things for other people and there’s no real consequences for their behavior.

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        Exactly, but I still just can’t begin to wrap my head around how miserable you have to be to live life like that. Yikes.

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            I’m glad you were able to overcome that. I don’t know if this is too personal to ask but were you really mad at others or was it something else driving you?

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              Nope, I was just in a very bad environment and very immature. I enjoyed being a stupid edgelord cause it gains you reactions.

              It’s like kids who enjoy getting negative attention. Like the saying, all press is good press. I just wanted any kind of attention and didn’t care how I got it.

              Thank god I’m over that lol

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      As far as I can tell, it stems from it being easier to escalate an argument by not being nice, which means, trying to win at all cost, leads to not being nice, or a bar fight. Some people get so used to it, that they see any attempt to stop it as a personal attack on themselves… which, technically speaking, it is: a safe space is telling them “we want nice people, not chronic bullies like you”… so they react in the way they’re used to: by trying to start a bar fight.

      I don’t think society has particularly “fallen”, looking back at history, there are a lot of examples, some much more gruesome than an argument on the internet, of people not being nice to each other. If anything, we’re going through a process of transferring IRL behaviors to more virtual mediums, both good and bad, but the bad ones seem to have come easier.

      I think it’s been last millenium that I already wrote, the Internet would end up becoming a reflection of reality, at which point we’d be able to see the real problems and try to fix them. Well, we’re almost there, still like one third of the world population missing from being online… (expect things to get worse before they get better)… but we’re already seeing a lot of what otherwise used to be hidden behind closed doors, or restricted to a small geographic area. Which itself has brought new challenges, but at least it’s making it easier to run sociological analyses, and trying to find some solutions.