For example on omegle…just put it on the Christian tag and let it run. I aint good at AI coding to create that, but i would host it for free so it can run 24/7

edit: some maybe got the wrong impresion…the bot is supposted to show how the bible in it self makes no sense. For example if someonr quotes a verse it should awnser with a verse that contradicts the first verse.

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    Bro wants someone else to make an ai chatbot with the sole purpose of telling other people that what they believe in is false.

    Example conversation below.

    User: m/25 AI: are you a christian? User: yes, why? AI: your god is false. user has disconnected

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      It’s certainly an interesting idea though.

      Sadly I think given how much current “AI” loves gaslighting and hallucinations it’s probably more suited to making a new cult.

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      idea is more like:

      Stranger: praise jesus!

      AI: why should i do that?

      Stranger: because jesus is the lord!

      AI: who says that?

      Stranger: The bible

      AI: How do you tell a fictional book from a factual book?

      and so on…

      At no point it should presure the user, just ask questions them maybe show them the paradoxical nature of the logic they are using

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        As long as what someone believes doesn’t affect anyone else, what does it matter? Why try and disprove or find logical flaws in someone else’s beliefs?

        I couldn’t think of a single benefit to this idea. It just reeks of self superiority.

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          Beliefs inform actions, so it’s impossible that a believer never affects someone. Sooner or later the believer will do something damaging.

          Procreating and passing on the delusion. Harassing non traditional sexualities or lifestyles. Preaching. Preventing their children from following their own love or their own vocation because it goes contrary to their religious tenets. Supporting “charities” that take the help hostage until the helped listen to the sermon or embrace the faith. Teaching that the only source of morality is religion, and specifically theirs.

          Also, leaving someone believe something intrinsically damaging and doing nothing is an asshole move.

          Of course it doesn’t benefit you but them. But maybe helping others is against your own beliefs.

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            You clearly believe you are smarter than anyone who believes in any religion ever? You know there are lots and lots of religious people who also live and appreciate the modern world right? Being religious doesn’t mean you must hate gay people and you must hate people who don’t think like how you think.

            You clearly have some very deep prejudice against people who believe in religion and I imagine that you feel very smart and superior to someone who goes to church once a week.

            I would rather have a friend that is a christian or a muslim, a hindu or a jew, who also believes in things that are modern and western like acceptance of people of all faiths and sexualities. Than someone like you who judges others based on what you think they must be like.

            You have quite literally stereotyped every religious person ever. Although it’s clear you are directing your ridiculous comment at Christianity.

            Also I’m not religious, I don’t go to any kind of church, mosque or temple. Yet I do believe it’s right for me yo stand up for the beliefs of others, even if they do not reflect my own.

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              You clearly believe you are smarter than anyone who believes in any religion ever?

              Not a chance. The director of the Human Genome Project is a believer, and he’s undoubtedly more knowledgeable and smart than I’ll ever be. He just happens to have an unjustifiable belief outside of his area of expertise.

              Being religious doesn’t mean you must hate gay people

              No, but being a member of a religious organization that does is being an accomplice.

              and you must hate people who don’t think like how you think.

              Nice non-sequitur you got there.

              You clearly have some very deep prejudice against people who believe in religion

              If thinking they’re mistaken and deluded about their god is a prejudice, then I do.

              I imagine that you feel very smart and superior to someone who goes to church once a week

              Only about my better use of time.

              I would rather have a friend that is a christian or a muslim, a hindu or a jew, who also believes in things that are modern and western like acceptance of people of all faiths and sexualities.

              Wait until you cross one of their internal, religiously imposed “uncrossable” limits. Let’s see how much the friendship lasts.

              You have quite literally stereotyped every religious person ever.

              Most of them make it very easy.

              Yet I do believe it’s right for me yo stand up for the beliefs of others, even if they do not reflect my own.

              Congratulations. You’re an accomplice of religions destroying many countries in the world.

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                Every point in my comment holds true, no matter what snarky replies you make. Because the fact of the matter is, you are prejudiced against people who follow a religion. And that is an unbelievably bad trait to have.

                But who am I to say, maybe you have a degree in theology? But for some reason, I seriously doubt it.

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                  But who am I to say, maybe you have a degree in theology?

                  You thing having a degree in imaginary beings makes you an authority? You’re useless, I’m done with you.

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    This is an extremely Christian line of thinking, are you sure you’re in the right community?

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        How about attempting to force a worldview or belief system on somebody who didn’t ask for it? Does that ring a bell perhaps?

        Other people aren’t your fucking business, leave them alone for fuck’s sake. You have no business telling other people how they should conduct themselves. Nobody does.

        You sound like a pissy kid who is mad and wants revenge.

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          so deindoctrination by talking to someone is now ‘forcing’

          i think ther mad person here would be you in that case

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          attempting to force a worldview or belief system on somebody who didn’t ask for it? Does that ring a bell perhaps?

          They have millennia of advantage over us in that regard. A little pushback won’t kill them.

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            It’s nice to be reminded that there are still shitty people outside of Christians, thanks for being that person so I don’t forget.

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              Push back against religious enshittification of society is “being a shitty person”. OK.

              Do you live in the US? Because that would be ironic.