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        Ok that doesn’t completely strip them of validity. I get why she would prefer to be calked a woman and take issue with her being assigned a different term just like I get why a transwoman would want to be called a woman rather than having a different term they do not identify with assigned to them.

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      But they are not equivalent. People that erase trans people read it like that and project. In a medical setting, the biology is important and the language makes sure all parts involved are included in the conversation.

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        This begs the question why is it acceptable to assign terms to people they do not identify as? Your comment would make sense in medical discussions about people giving birth but that’s not how it is being used.

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          It does not beg that question because that is literally how it is being used. Your continued hammering of that point is simply untrue and feels incredibly disingenuous since multiple people have told you that is how it is being used

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            It is being used to describe someone in a way they would prefer not to be used for them. Is this really that hard to see the overt hypocrisy in?

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              There’s a distinct difference between complaining that you were labeled a certain way and being a celebrity and writing a rant apropos of nothing on Twitter about how an amorphous “they” are not calling us women anymore.

              You’re right that no one should be referred to in a way they don’t want to be, but that only applies when they’re not being intolerant. Punch Nazis and call them assholes and Nazis. It’s good and cool.