If so, was it polled somewhere?

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      You’re not liberals, liberals are centerists, you guys are far, far to the left. Which is fine, but let’s not confuse political terms.

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          anyone i’ve ever met claiming to be a centrist was in reality uninformed politically and using the label as a shield for their similarly uninformed takes.

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          we’re centrists. we hold the political center between anarchism and Marxism-Leninism.

          Is that an inside joke? Because outside of Hexbear and maybe 1930s Catalonia, “between anarchism and Leninism” is extreme left.

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            Is that an inside joke?

            Answering genuinely, yeah it is lol

            That being said, what is considered the “political center” varies a lot from place to place, a lot more than just 1930s Catalonia.

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                You do see how many of us are being treated though right? Some of us are going in hot, but most are interacting reasonably, then getting slammed with bad faith complaints and accusations,

                Its incredibly frustrating, I’m sure you can relate

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                  Let’s tally up the replies to me from Hexbear users.

                  • One insult.
                  • One taunt.
                  • One helpful reply with a little pushback (which might be deserved).
                  • One reply expressing frustration with how Hexbear users are treated collectively.
                  • One troll.

                  So a minority of Hexbear users interacted reasonably, while the majority of Hexbear users did not.

                  I know you personally can’t do much about your instance’s users making a majority of posts in bad faith, but Hexbear as an instance has a bad reputation across the Fediverse right now because of their behavior.

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                  The more I look the more I see a severe clash of values between Hexbear and SIJW (and most Lemmy instances). Most Hexbears act like spewing insults, trolling, and supporting murderous dictators are blows for righteousness. On the other side, those Hexbears come off as juvenile delinquents wearing Red Guard armbands as they spray graffiti, break windows, and take offense at being told off.

                  Until Hexbear culture quits sanctifying insults and trolling, a lot of doors are going to be slammed in your faces.

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                    Half of what you said is you disagreeing with our politics

                    Im sure the people you think are ‘the good guys’ politically are evil murderous dictators ‘democratically elected representative of the people’

                    The systems you support, tacitly or directly are violent by nature, yet you think dissent against it is acting in bad faith

                    Its absurd, and it’s embarrassing

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            According to fascists, sure. Just because fascists call us extreme left doesn’t mean we aren’t actually centrists.

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        It’s technically a leftist website, but only due to me: The One True Leftist. The rest of them are libs

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      You’re a bunch of 4Chan users cosplaying as leftists and some people don’t like that.

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        Drats! The one true leftist has figured out our ruse! For three whole years we’ve been meticulously crafting a safe space for queer and marginalized people to speak freely without condescension and infantilization from privileged folks, all as a bit, to eventually confuse users of a FOSS Reddit alternative. You got us. Pat yourself on the back. I can’t believe you figured it out.

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        Yeah, 4chan, known for being vehemently opposed to racism, sexism, homophobia, ableism, and all other forms of bigotry. You can tell we’re all 4chan users because of how we’re literally the opposite of 4chan users in basically every way.

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        we are about as far from 4chan as you can get, we’re just rude to losers like you who equate queer liberationist leftists with incel pedophile racists on 4chan

        Go fuck yourself!

        (P.S. This is why we’re rude sometimes, absolutely go and fuck yourself)

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        How are we like 4chan users? We filter slurs and ban users who try to engage in hate speech. We offer content/NSFW warnings. We don’t doxx or send death threats and ban those who try.

        I want to know why you looked at Hexbear and saw 4chan.

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          I don’t say people trying to associate Hexbear and 4chan are fed posters, but I say that if I were a fedposting I would certainly try to make that association popular.

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            Oh, full stop. I was just hoping I could get an answer about what they dislike about 4chan to use it as an insult against us. Because right now, it just seems like the tone. Not any of the other fucked up things on that image board.

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        ?

        I’ve never used that website, I’d imagine most hexbear users haven’t. We’re actually reddit refugees from 3 years ago, thank you very much 😤.

        Not like that’s much better lol.

        There’s no cosplay here, I can promise you that. I’m bi and communist, don’t know about other users. I know we have a sizeable amount of trans users as well. Pretty sure none of us are cosplaying as left of LGBT.

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        We’re to the left of you. Cope. Seethe. Communism or barbarism, and it’s pretty clear what you’re into

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        You got us, all of our theory reading groups, real life mutual aid, and threads about loving our trans comrades have all been part of an elaborate 3-year long running gag to trick you, the main character.

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          And yet you would betray all of that work to ineffectively dunk on libs. Which motivation is truly the priority?

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              I’m saying that all of your theory reading groups, real life mutual aid, and threads about loving your trans comrades are entirely insignificant in precipitating a communist society. Your behavior on Lemmy is actively pushing people away from communism as an ideology, and thus I question whether your users are truly committed to aiding the proletariat in their struggle.

              Marx would be ashamed of you people.

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              Sure. The people who you are childishly attacking comprise the audience that you have been provided to spread your leftist ideals and accomplish your purported communist objectives. But instead of evangelizing, you choose to resort to mockery and snickering inside jokes, thereby ensuring that your isolated community never gains enough relevance to effect real change. It’s amazing to me that I have to spell this out for you, you should be abundantly aware after being defederated by the vast majority of other servers.

              Your entire shtick is a self-congratulatory circlejerk just for being on team “We Hate America”. That’s not communism, it’s teenage angst.

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                What? No one on Hexbear is on it because we think we’re going to “effect real change” on here lol

                Maybe you forget how isolated lemmy is in general. Even if we wanted to do that it’s not even possible. This is just our comfortable space in an ocean of online liberalism. We’re happy to discuss politics with people in good faith and it’s great if we can help educate people but pretty much everything important happens in real life, offline. So don’t act surprised when you’re met with mockery because you’ve accused us of betraying communism for not letting the bigots, transphobes, reactionaries, and libs talk down to us and insult us on the Internet in some naive attempt to “convert” them.

                Also, we get along fine with most of the fediverse! I’m glad we’re still connected to lemmy.ml, lemm.ee, sdf, etc even though there can be a few bad actors. I’m not sure federating with your instance was a good idea though…

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                  Fair enough. I think you’re delusional if you believe that your users are accomplishing anything important in real life, due to their terminally online status and lack of social graces, but sure.

                  It’s amazing to me that you don’t recognize that the internet has become the most powerful tool for social control in human history, and any attempt to counter the prevailing narrative will inevitably have to incorporate a digital component in order to succeed. But sure, Lemmy is just where you take out your frustrations on the libs after a hard day’s work ineffectively unionizing and canvassing for irrelevant leftist politicians. Good luck with that, you’re really making a difference 👏

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                    Sorry, posting is primarily not praxis lol

                    Sure, the revolution will have a “digital component” but I don’t really see the point in being conciliatory to smug closed-minded assholes on one of the most niche social media platforms on the internet. It’s obvious you don’t know anything about Marxism or about how social change is made so you can keep your advice to yourself. We try to keep details about our efforts in the real world vague because we don’t want to be doxxed.

                    Good luck with that, you’re really making a difference 👏

                    Yes, I’m sure letting people call us slurs, red fascists, pretending-to-be-LGBT-people, and Chinese/Russian bots on lemmy (the most important social platform, the social platform of the revolution) without any pushback will exert enough social control on them to make them do communism. Our posts will make Marx proud!

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        Comments like this have really shown me that liberals don’t actually care about beliefs at all (hexbear having diametrically opposed beliefs to 4chan). They only care about tone.

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          Why yes, groups of people who act like a bunch of dogpiling 4chan trolls typically don’t have their beliefs respected or acknowledged. Tone is important. Glad we could help you come to that realization.

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      Understood. And I know there are groups on pretty much every instance that ruin things for everyone else. I don’t want to judge any full instance from the actions of a minority.