Looking back on my comment, I do legitimately feel very guilty for saying this. As much as I love nazi bastards get what they deserve, I don’t feel as good as I thought I would. I feel empty and sorrowful.
I’m not gonna suck his dick or anything, and he seems like a shitty person. But I don’t feel that this helps the families and countries that he helped destroy. Him getting mugged and beaten half to death isn’t going to bring his victims of Amerikkkan Colonialism back. He deserves legal punishment, but I think that’s it.
I believe that he should have to eventually live with his own actions after being informed of the true horrors of what he did, and the cruel mercy of letting him live and suffer is a hell all its own.
I also highly doubt that people mugged him for being a nazi veteran, but I could be wrong. He just seemed like a douchebag cracker and an easy victim, and I don’t think anyone should be mugged and beaten half to death, and I highly doubt those that attacked him did it on principle or were committed marxist revolutionaries.
Its stupid, but when I see his face, I just imagine my elderly grandfather crying.
My grandfather isn’t a war criminal though, and I don’t want to give too much sympathy to a prick like this cracker. But I almost feel as bad as those reich-wing douchebags who cheered that the people that Kyle Rittenhouse murdered turned out to be pedophiles, and used that to slander the heroic actions of his victims.
At the core, our delight at the stochastic suffering of an individual is a side effect of the weakness of our movement. This is petty individualism resulting from our lack of agency living in this collapsing capitalist world. The assailants would not be theives if we had a society that distributed wealth and opportunities to all. The soldier may also have well been a man willing to fight and kill fascists in another timeline because he would have lived in a socialist superstructure rather than a fascist superstructure. Yet we exist here.
This timeline requires us of sound mind to see what we can do to build good structures worth dying for. Let the fascists kill themselves in their foolishness and let us not delight in it but seriously give 0 fucks about their well being. We seek to save people and when we are successful, we do. Fascists only seek to destroy others as a false solution to the problems of capitalism. Technically, nobody needs to die to build socialism, but those that refuse to give up their privlidge to create a more egalitarian society will often kill to protect their disgusting way of life. Those killers may need to be addressed in various manners, but we are not in the time in the war of movement. This now is the war of position.
The assailants would not be theives if we had a society that distributed wealth and opportunities to all. The soldier may also have well been a man willing to fight and kill fascists in another timeline because he would have lived in a socialist superstructure rather than a fascist superstructure.
If you want to abolish the death penalty except in cases where someone does a crime you consider to be really bad, you don’t want to abolish the death penalty.
Similarly, if we talk a big game about how the ills of society influence individual crimes and reduce personal responsibility for those crimes, but then abandon that as soon as we’re faced with a really bad crime, our belief isn’t all that sincere to begin with.
I’m not aware that a society with millions of people can exist where killing or the threat of violence is the last resort of not complying with that society’s norms. Resorting to violence or killing is generally understood to be the last desparate resort when more peaceful measures are not possible. Having a trial of a contained prisoner and executing said prisoner is the death penalty. Killing a fascist spree killer to save the lives of others is another matter entirely.
When we are talking politics we must understand that society is influenced by material factors that lead to have people do particular actions. If those actions are common, we may suspect that they are systemic. If they are systemic it is best to change the factors in society that create those bad behaviors.
If a friend or yourself falls victim to do these bad behaviors society creates, you can tell them to take responsibility for their life as a point of influence and hopefully they can get their shit together in a system that makes it difficult. Whenever fascists talk about “personal responsibility” it is refusing to address a systemic problem
I also highly doubt that people mugged him for being a nazi veteran, but I could be wrong. He just seemed like a douchebag cracker and an easy victim, and I don’t think anyone should be mugged and beaten half to death, and I highly doubt those that attacked him did it on principle or were committed marxist revolutionaries.
There’s no way this guy was mugged for any political purpose. The result serves no political purpose, besides maybe making more reactionaries. Celebrating this type of crime mostly (1) opens the door for opportunists and (2) separates the left from the masses, who largely view even petty crime as a bad thing.
No AES state has a stance on crime anywhere near that of the online left. Famously, analysis of Soviet archives in the 90s showed that most gulag inmates were there for stuff like thefts, burglaries, and assaults, not political crimes.
The best take on crime stories is pointing out that leftist programs prevent crime in the first place.
I feel/hope that most of us are just meme-ing and don’t actually support this attack. And you’re right, over 80 percent of gulag inmates were there for non-political crimes, and only were imprisoned for 2-3 years, or 4-5. And even the ones arrested for political crimes mostly deserved it as well.
I believe that he should have to eventually live with his own actions after being informed of the true horrors of what he did, and the cruel mercy of letting him live and suffer is a hell all its own.
US soldiers are incapable of feeling empathy or compassion, so it wouldn’t do much to bother him.
He definitely deserved it
Looking back on my comment, I do legitimately feel very guilty for saying this. As much as I love nazi bastards get what they deserve, I don’t feel as good as I thought I would. I feel empty and sorrowful.
I’m not gonna suck his dick or anything, and he seems like a shitty person. But I don’t feel that this helps the families and countries that he helped destroy. Him getting mugged and beaten half to death isn’t going to bring his victims of Amerikkkan Colonialism back. He deserves legal punishment, but I think that’s it.
I believe that he should have to eventually live with his own actions after being informed of the true horrors of what he did, and the cruel mercy of letting him live and suffer is a hell all its own.
I also highly doubt that people mugged him for being a nazi veteran, but I could be wrong. He just seemed like a douchebag cracker and an easy victim, and I don’t think anyone should be mugged and beaten half to death, and I highly doubt those that attacked him did it on principle or were committed marxist revolutionaries.
Its stupid, but when I see his face, I just imagine my elderly grandfather crying.
My grandfather isn’t a war criminal though, and I don’t want to give too much sympathy to a prick like this cracker. But I almost feel as bad as those reich-wing douchebags who cheered that the people that Kyle Rittenhouse murdered turned out to be pedophiles, and used that to slander the heroic actions of his victims.
At the core, our delight at the stochastic suffering of an individual is a side effect of the weakness of our movement. This is petty individualism resulting from our lack of agency living in this collapsing capitalist world. The assailants would not be theives if we had a society that distributed wealth and opportunities to all. The soldier may also have well been a man willing to fight and kill fascists in another timeline because he would have lived in a socialist superstructure rather than a fascist superstructure. Yet we exist here.
This timeline requires us of sound mind to see what we can do to build good structures worth dying for. Let the fascists kill themselves in their foolishness and let us not delight in it but seriously give 0 fucks about their well being. We seek to save people and when we are successful, we do. Fascists only seek to destroy others as a false solution to the problems of capitalism. Technically, nobody needs to die to build socialism, but those that refuse to give up their privlidge to create a more egalitarian society will often kill to protect their disgusting way of life. Those killers may need to be addressed in various manners, but we are not in the time in the war of movement. This now is the war of position.
If you want to abolish the death penalty except in cases where someone does a crime you consider to be really bad, you don’t want to abolish the death penalty.
Similarly, if we talk a big game about how the ills of society influence individual crimes and reduce personal responsibility for those crimes, but then abandon that as soon as we’re faced with a really bad crime, our belief isn’t all that sincere to begin with.
I’m not aware that a society with millions of people can exist where killing or the threat of violence is the last resort of not complying with that society’s norms. Resorting to violence or killing is generally understood to be the last desparate resort when more peaceful measures are not possible. Having a trial of a contained prisoner and executing said prisoner is the death penalty. Killing a fascist spree killer to save the lives of others is another matter entirely.
When we are talking politics we must understand that society is influenced by material factors that lead to have people do particular actions. If those actions are common, we may suspect that they are systemic. If they are systemic it is best to change the factors in society that create those bad behaviors.
If a friend or yourself falls victim to do these bad behaviors society creates, you can tell them to take responsibility for their life as a point of influence and hopefully they can get their shit together in a system that makes it difficult. Whenever fascists talk about “personal responsibility” it is refusing to address a systemic problem
There’s no way this guy was mugged for any political purpose. The result serves no political purpose, besides maybe making more reactionaries. Celebrating this type of crime mostly (1) opens the door for opportunists and (2) separates the left from the masses, who largely view even petty crime as a bad thing.
No AES state has a stance on crime anywhere near that of the online left. Famously, analysis of Soviet archives in the 90s showed that most gulag inmates were there for stuff like thefts, burglaries, and assaults, not political crimes.
The best take on crime stories is pointing out that leftist programs prevent crime in the first place.
I feel/hope that most of us are just meme-ing and don’t actually support this attack. And you’re right, over 80 percent of gulag inmates were there for non-political crimes, and only were imprisoned for 2-3 years, or 4-5. And even the ones arrested for political crimes mostly deserved it as well.
US soldiers are incapable of feeling empathy or compassion, so it wouldn’t do much to bother him.
I think that even a piece of shit person can often feel guilty, but that isn’t true of everyone.