• rk96@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    Yes, as if communism doesnt support opressing literally everyone, you western “communists” are really special aren’t ya?

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      1 year ago

      How do you oppress everyone in an economic model focused on worker enfranchisement?

      …or do you not know what communism means and just belive China, the USSR and DPRK when they say they’re communist?

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        1 year ago

        Sooo there aren’t any examples of communism working but it totally is going to when done right! I could counter with “if capitalism was done right nobody would be oppressed and everyone would want for nothing”.

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          This really isn’t difficult stuff.

          Communism is based on worker enfranchisement and abolition of the commodity form. Where is the inherent incentive for autocracy, and what examples would you care to cite?

          Capitalism, on the other hand, naturally favours monopoly thanks to factors including economic power acting as political power, first mover advantage, and economies of scale. Capitalism has no inherent need to even be democratic. Your democracy is polluted by economic influence, your workplace is autocratic. What is there to get right that stops any of this?

          … But more importantly, how do you oppress everyone in an economic model focused on worker enfranchisement?

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            1 year ago

            Free market doesn’t equate to capitalism. There are countless working capitalistic societies and none communist ones.

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      1 year ago

      Love how you just assume I’m from the west. I’m eastern european, my family is also, and we lived through everything - and I’ve yet to meet someone other than western investors and young kids who thinks things are good/better now