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    We’ve heard from you that dealing with spam is taking up more of your time, so the goal of this update is to help catch spammy and abusive users at a faster rate so that you can spend more time engaging with your communities and redditing.

    So instead of restoring the tools the mods originally had that helped control spam effectively, reddit is rolling out their own ‘tools’ that will undoubtedly be less accessible, harder to use, and only available in one specific way. Because fuck everyone who isn’t a reddit admin.

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      it’s sad to see reddit decay like this. 10 years ago it was amazing, and it’s been a slow decent from then to now.

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        I think it’s about time to finally leave Reddit. I’ve been there for almost 15 years and I just got my first permanent ban from a legal advice sub for one single comment. I’m not sure what I said wrong because I never use inflammatory language. Oh well, I already left Twitter, time to bail on Reddit too.

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          I got banned from star trek for asking about people’s view of worf and discussing his character, there was some rule against opinion pieces, I appealed saying it was a discussion and not an opinion piece and that people were taking part. The mod made the bán permanent and highlighted the part of the post with my opinion in it and said case closed. I told him he wasn’t a good mod that I was trying to discuss something and gave my view and that this heavy handed approach is bullshit. The following day I got a permanent ban sitewide. No explanation. Googled the message content and apparently it was an issue with a lot of people getting the same treatment.

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            I had this happen to me. It seems like even talking back to a mod is a total sidewide ban. It’s time to archive old posts and jump ship. The fediverse is big enough we don’t need reddit anymore and our effort is better spent building communities here.check out startrek.website

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            Paramount basically owns the mods of that sub. Found out myself. They’ll ban anyone with a slightly critical opinion. If you didn’t think reddit was astroturfed enough.

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            Can’t say I’m surprised. There is an understanding between mods and admins that whatever the mods do, the admin will agree to. Only in extreme cases will there be interference.

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          I just got my first permanent ban from a legal advice sub

          Lol, wear that as a badge of honor. I mean this seriously. If you’re talking about r/legaladvice, last time I looked there wasn’t a single real attorney in the mod list, and most of the mods are LEOs and ex-LEOs.

          I am not at all surprised by you saying that you don’t break the rules, you behave well, yet you got a permaban from them: unless you’re just making legal shit up or in with the power mods you don’t last there.

          When a place like that kicks you out, they’re giving you the highest compliment they have as humans to give – by telling you that you’re not like them and do not belong – even if that’s the opposite of their intention.

          Like I said, wear it as a badge of honor. You wouldn’t fit on 4chan or kiwifarms either. But I bet you do just fine everywhere else. Take it as the high compliment it really is.

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            The original post there was about somebody who had to pay back $6000 to the food stamp office because there was a year’s worth of overpayments. I said that even though the error was no fault of his own, he still had to pay it back. That is in fact true and I found myself permanently banned 30 minutes later.

            I just find it strange that you can get banned for life just because you made one comment that the mods did not like. It’s not like I called the guy a scumbag or loser and that he should go to jail or something equally vindictive.

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              That actually makes sense to me. I’ll explain, but before I do I just want to say you are 100% right, people who are overpaid on benefits DO have to repay: unemployment, SNAP, etc. You weren’t wrong at all.

              But again, that sub is run by LEOs, and LEOs tend to skew profoundly right in their beliefs and political leanings. One of the most common tropes among that group are Reagan’s welfare queen, and of course anyone on SNAP. You just made a real world, factual observation that involves someone on SNAP -not- being allowed to lazily suck freely at the national tit; to them it’s like you slapped Tucker Carlson upside the head and called him a useless twat. Not wrong, but of course they had to ban you, lol.

              Like I said . . . badge of honor.

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                What probably got me banned was asking the guy how was he not aware of such a gross overpayment. Oh well, I suppose most people look at a noticeable bump in SNAP benefits and don’t even question it. I would think something was amiss and double check on it.

                The slur, “welfare queen” never really has gone away and it’s been 40 years now. Heck, the colloquialism “hipster” barely lasted 10 years. Anyway, a lot of people unaware the fact that the people that get food stamps are pretty much split down the middle race wise. There are just as many white folks getting food stamps as there are African-Americans.

                I’m a senior citizen I know a lot of people in my age bracket that get them because their Social Security is not quite enough to cover everything, especially since inflation has run amok the last few years.

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          I was permabanned from… some sub, I don’t even recall which, in a discussion about why LGBTQ+ rights were still incredibly important and cited the Westboro Baptist Church’s “God Hates F***s” signs (just like that) as an example of the kind of hate and vitriol LGBTQ+ people have to face daily. I was banned for using a hate slur.

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          You don’t have to say anything specific to get banned in that sub, you just have to catch a mod on a bad day, which is basically every day. I got banned for a reply to a comment on that sub - not even the OP, just a very buried comment, because they said I was off topic of the OP. My comment was very much on topic and involved how to report an abused child. One of the mods lost their fucking minds that day and banned dozens of people in that post. It wasn’t even a controversial post with a lot of contentious comments and rule breaking, most of us were just discussing child abuse resources, which directly related to the OP. Those mods are power- mad fucking nutters.

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          legal advice subs are particularly austere and shitty.

          there are too many rules on reddit – years and years of byzantine fixes atop fixes. very unpleasant environment to try to interact in

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            I suppose the larger the mob, the more it needs to be reined in but some of the subs have a number of “overzealous” mods.

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            I’ve been on the Internet over 30 years and it never fails that the more popularity site gains, the less utility that it has. Reddit, Facebook and Twitter will always have tons of users but I don’t think any of those sites are as useful as they were a decade ago.

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              the more popularity site gains, the less utility that it has.

              I think there is a “goldilocks” popularity zone. Right around the time with shitty watercolour and the hell in a cell guy, and when people would ask obscure questions and some ridiculously specific professional would chime in. Those were the days.

              I think it was really a matter of being able to downvote poor content and comments into non-existence so those people would never return.

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          I caught a reddit 3 day ban for reporting bots. Fuck em, done with that trash ass site and now I’m here.

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        The problem is the mods and the admins. The mods choose to use massive, opaque automod filters. The admins develop even more opaque scoring systems to feed into the automod configurations. It didn’t have to be like this. They chose to make it this way.

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      And I’ve already seen comments that it’s not available in the official Reddit app. Shocking (/s if that wasn’t obvious.)

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      It is much easier to control a score. Karma completely depends on user arbitrary choices. Scores are optimized to satisfy reddit KPIs