I’ve seen it used as an excuse my whole life, people without compassion just telling someone its 100% on you, when its never that simple, Life is never that simple.
I’ve seen compassion used as an excuse to enable anything from childish, spoiled behavior to the most evil shit imaginable, from people like you who think you can just motte-and-bailey away the fact that you’re excusing evil. What about it? 🤷 You lack the compassion you demand from others because you’re not actually talking about or demanding compassion; you’re just trying to manipulate the emotions of everyone around you to save terrible people from consequences, denying them the chance to experience reality for what it is and learn from their mistakes, and abusing everyone else.
You ought to learn compassion for literally everyone else around you, and accept that not everyone has to feel compassion for everyone. Humans withhold compassion and empathy based on behavior and we do that so that we’re able to enforce rules and expectations in our communities, to protect the people we love and care about, to maintain boundaries. But you don’t care about that because all you care about is yourself.
Even the weird false dichotomy of simple vs. complex you paint – another terrible cliche from your camp – does this. A lot of things in life are that simple, and a situation being complex doesn’t change the fact that what someone’s doing is wrong and that they need to be held accountable for it. Accountability, responsibility and decency mean more than that.
There’s nothing complex about some idiot who keeps using Reddit despite the act being contrary to their best interest just like there’s nothing complex about some rapist raping others. Yet you use the same excuses with both. You’ve even done it in regards to child killers. I’ve seen your camp do it on Lemmy with my own two eyes.
What you’re trying to do is subtly imply that we cannot trust our own judgement or come to a conclusion you don’t want us to come to – that the remaining Reddit users are just idiots, in this case – and you’re not going to get what you want. They objectively are idiots and that’s a fact regardless of how anybody feels about it.
We’re not obligated to ignore facts because doing so inconveniences or threatens you.
I strive for the truth of things.
Its not enabling,
Stop lying.
Come back when you have some actual integrity. And stop defending stupid people.
I’ve seen compassion used as an excuse to enable anything from childish, spoiled behavior to the most evil shit imaginable, from people like you who think you can just motte-and-bailey away the fact that you’re excusing evil.
Again, you’re assuming facts not in evidence. You know nothing about me but you’re completely confident in judging me inadequate/wanting and knowing you’re 100% right in doing so, again, all without knowing me, a stranger across the Internet whom you have never met.
All I ever avocated for in this conversation was a variance, not an either/or. You’re the one who has been channeling your anger and life view into the conversation, and insisting on a “your way or the highway” approach (aka “F off, sucks to be you”), which from what I’ve seen makes me honestly worried about you, not that you’d care, because I’m using compassion to worry about you. You can’t be happy living like that long term.
At this point I don’t think its worth us discussing any more, we’ve come to an impasse. We’ll leave it at agree to disagree.
Take care of yourself, you are the only you there is.
No, you’re going along with the enabler’s playbook quite smoothly. Right now, all you’ve got are cheap ad-homs so you’re going after my confidence, life experience, and my emotions like what people like you always do to anyone who calls you out because you’re wrong and you just want to win something. Well, you’re not winning the argument. You lose. Get over it.
Again, you might not like hearing the truth but it doesn’t stop being the truth just because you don’t want to hear it. The remaining Reddit users are dumber than a box of fucking rocks. They’re staying on a website that has done nothing but shit on its users throughout the year. They’re allowing themselves to be subjected to a social credit score to have access to the site knowing damn well they could come here and get most of the positive benefits of Reddit without any of the drawbacks. Refusing to take advantage of alternatives and continuing to stay on an abusive website is stupid as fucking hell and you know it. There is no disputing that. It’s as indisputable as 2 + 2 = 4.
Yet here you are, not wanting to admit it because you know that the remaining Reddit users, regular people, are harming themselves and you don’t believe regular people should ever be held accountable for anything, only corporations. Well, the only way Reddit is able to continue functioning is because of those regular people. We’re the ones who buy and consume shit from those organizations. We’re the ones feeding those beasts and it’s way, WAY past time for us as regular people to face the fact that we’re culpable for the monstrously idiotic shit they’ve been doing, including and especially Reddit.
All human beings have the core obligation to take responsibility for their own actions and you are denying that core obligation because you don’t want it to be true. That’s entirely a you problem. Really an enabler problem throughout our culture.
I’ve seen compassion used as an excuse to enable anything from childish, spoiled behavior to the most evil shit imaginable, from people like you who think you can just motte-and-bailey away the fact that you’re excusing evil. What about it? 🤷 You lack the compassion you demand from others because you’re not actually talking about or demanding compassion; you’re just trying to manipulate the emotions of everyone around you to save terrible people from consequences, denying them the chance to experience reality for what it is and learn from their mistakes, and abusing everyone else.
You ought to learn compassion for literally everyone else around you, and accept that not everyone has to feel compassion for everyone. Humans withhold compassion and empathy based on behavior and we do that so that we’re able to enforce rules and expectations in our communities, to protect the people we love and care about, to maintain boundaries. But you don’t care about that because all you care about is yourself.
Even the weird false dichotomy of simple vs. complex you paint – another terrible cliche from your camp – does this. A lot of things in life are that simple, and a situation being complex doesn’t change the fact that what someone’s doing is wrong and that they need to be held accountable for it. Accountability, responsibility and decency mean more than that.
There’s nothing complex about some idiot who keeps using Reddit despite the act being contrary to their best interest just like there’s nothing complex about some rapist raping others. Yet you use the same excuses with both. You’ve even done it in regards to child killers. I’ve seen your camp do it on Lemmy with my own two eyes.
What you’re trying to do is subtly imply that we cannot trust our own judgement or come to a conclusion you don’t want us to come to – that the remaining Reddit users are just idiots, in this case – and you’re not going to get what you want. They objectively are idiots and that’s a fact regardless of how anybody feels about it.
We’re not obligated to ignore facts because doing so inconveniences or threatens you.
Stop lying.
Come back when you have some actual integrity. And stop defending stupid people.
Again, you’re assuming facts not in evidence. You know nothing about me but you’re completely confident in judging me inadequate/wanting and knowing you’re 100% right in doing so, again, all without knowing me, a stranger across the Internet whom you have never met.
All I ever avocated for in this conversation was a variance, not an either/or. You’re the one who has been channeling your anger and life view into the conversation, and insisting on a “your way or the highway” approach (aka “F off, sucks to be you”), which from what I’ve seen makes me honestly worried about you, not that you’d care, because I’m using compassion to worry about you. You can’t be happy living like that long term.
At this point I don’t think its worth us discussing any more, we’ve come to an impasse. We’ll leave it at agree to disagree.
Take care of yourself, you are the only you there is.
No, you’re going along with the enabler’s playbook quite smoothly. Right now, all you’ve got are cheap ad-homs so you’re going after my confidence, life experience, and my emotions like what people like you always do to anyone who calls you out because you’re wrong and you just want to win something. Well, you’re not winning the argument. You lose. Get over it.
Again, you might not like hearing the truth but it doesn’t stop being the truth just because you don’t want to hear it. The remaining Reddit users are dumber than a box of fucking rocks. They’re staying on a website that has done nothing but shit on its users throughout the year. They’re allowing themselves to be subjected to a social credit score to have access to the site knowing damn well they could come here and get most of the positive benefits of Reddit without any of the drawbacks. Refusing to take advantage of alternatives and continuing to stay on an abusive website is stupid as fucking hell and you know it. There is no disputing that. It’s as indisputable as 2 + 2 = 4.
Yet here you are, not wanting to admit it because you know that the remaining Reddit users, regular people, are harming themselves and you don’t believe regular people should ever be held accountable for anything, only corporations. Well, the only way Reddit is able to continue functioning is because of those regular people. We’re the ones who buy and consume shit from those organizations. We’re the ones feeding those beasts and it’s way, WAY past time for us as regular people to face the fact that we’re culpable for the monstrously idiotic shit they’ve been doing, including and especially Reddit.
All human beings have the core obligation to take responsibility for their own actions and you are denying that core obligation because you don’t want it to be true. That’s entirely a you problem. Really an enabler problem throughout our culture.
People like you, man 🤦🤦🤦