A lot of the hate comes from apple having been a big supporter of the usb-c standard when it was developed, yet they still chose to go the anti-consumer route and stick with lightning for years after they already had a better cable. Now there’s landfills of useless lightning cables, while we can still use micro-usb for a lot of other old devices.
Better how? There is nothing in the iPhone 15 that was improved after changing the port. For the iPhone 15 Pro, faster transfer speeds are now supported but if we are honest, how many iPhone owners will ever transfer anything to or from their phones using a cable? I remember doing so once in the past 5 years. Using the cloud or AirDrop is significantly more convenient. On a device as small as the phone fast charging at higher wattage than what Lightning already provided is most likely going to murder your battery.
Now there’s landfills of useless lightning cables, while we can still use micro-usb for a lot of other old devices.
I don’t see why we couldn’t still use Lightning cables for old devices the same way as we can use micro-usb cables for old devices? Apple and other manufacturers have sold billions of devices and accessories utilizing Lightning. It’s not going to disappear any time soon.
Are lightning cables proprietary or universal? If Apple wanted to make it the standard, they should have opened it up beyond the walls of Apple, sort of like how Tesla has done with their chargers.
I don’t see why we couldn’t still use Lightning cables for old devices the same way as we can use micro-usb cables
Because Lightning is proprietary. There are no old devices outside of Apple’s ecosystem that use Lightning.
Fucking everything uses/used micro usb. Flashlights, controllers, vapes, Rokus, etc… basically any consumer electronic you can think of had a version using micro usb on it for something at some point.
Sure, but all of them will assuredly have a direct official USB-C replacement, that is also better in other ways(i.e over the base iphone 14, besides usb-c, the base 15 also gains the A16 SoC and dynamic island), in the near future. Nobody is saying get rid of those older devices just to be on the new standard, but eventually people WILL upgrade. Whether that be for new features,faster performance, better audio quality, or just plain wanting to be done with Lightning, something will cause them to upgrade.
Despite being obsolete in every single possible way, this isn’t the case for micro-usb. Unlike with Apple devices where there’s always a tangible, if maybe not worthwhile, upgrade on the newer model, there are SO many things micro-usb is used on that NEVER need to be replaced unless it physically breaks. Until they literally break, my micro-usb charged flashlight is just as good as my usb-c flashlight, my decade old alarm clock powered by micro-usb is just as good as a brand new usb-c alarm clock, etc…
Your comment just made me think about all the devices I still use that use micro-USB: Bluetooth speakers (most of which I bought some long time ago and still work), rechargeable keyboard with trackpad (used for our streaming PC), headsets, gaming controllers, power packs (even one that has an additional Apple charger as an option LOL), AA batteries, bicycle headlights/taillights, so many flashlights and lanterns for camping, the mobile hotspot they gave me for work, action cams…
We’ll be using micro-USB for a long time to come, it seems.
I used to use an iPhone X to move photos from my camera’s sd card to my ssd while traveling. The transfers took a long time and would definitely have benefited from faster transfer speeds.
A lot of the hate comes from apple having been a big supporter of the usb-c standard when it was developed, yet they still chose to go the anti-consumer route and stick with lightning for years after they already had a better cable. Now there’s landfills of useless lightning cables, while we can still use micro-usb for a lot of other old devices.
Better how? There is nothing in the iPhone 15 that was improved after changing the port. For the iPhone 15 Pro, faster transfer speeds are now supported but if we are honest, how many iPhone owners will ever transfer anything to or from their phones using a cable? I remember doing so once in the past 5 years. Using the cloud or AirDrop is significantly more convenient. On a device as small as the phone fast charging at higher wattage than what Lightning already provided is most likely going to murder your battery.
I don’t see why we couldn’t still use Lightning cables for old devices the same way as we can use micro-usb cables for old devices? Apple and other manufacturers have sold billions of devices and accessories utilizing Lightning. It’s not going to disappear any time soon.
Are lightning cables proprietary or universal? If Apple wanted to make it the standard, they should have opened it up beyond the walls of Apple, sort of like how Tesla has done with their chargers.
Any manufacturer can make Lightning devices, as long as they license it.
That’s the point
proprietary
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That’s what I said, wasn’t it?
Because Lightning is proprietary. There are no old devices outside of Apple’s ecosystem that use Lightning.
Fucking everything uses/used micro usb. Flashlights, controllers, vapes, Rokus, etc… basically any consumer electronic you can think of had a version using micro usb on it for something at some point.
But Apple has alone sold a billion devices using Lightning. Many of those devices will likely remain usable for years.
Sure, but all of them will assuredly have a direct official USB-C replacement, that is also better in other ways(i.e over the base iphone 14, besides usb-c, the base 15 also gains the A16 SoC and dynamic island), in the near future. Nobody is saying get rid of those older devices just to be on the new standard, but eventually people WILL upgrade. Whether that be for new features,faster performance, better audio quality, or just plain wanting to be done with Lightning, something will cause them to upgrade.
Despite being obsolete in every single possible way, this isn’t the case for micro-usb. Unlike with Apple devices where there’s always a tangible, if maybe not worthwhile, upgrade on the newer model, there are SO many things micro-usb is used on that NEVER need to be replaced unless it physically breaks. Until they literally break, my micro-usb charged flashlight is just as good as my usb-c flashlight, my decade old alarm clock powered by micro-usb is just as good as a brand new usb-c alarm clock, etc…
Your comment just made me think about all the devices I still use that use micro-USB: Bluetooth speakers (most of which I bought some long time ago and still work), rechargeable keyboard with trackpad (used for our streaming PC), headsets, gaming controllers, power packs (even one that has an additional Apple charger as an option LOL), AA batteries, bicycle headlights/taillights, so many flashlights and lanterns for camping, the mobile hotspot they gave me for work, action cams…
We’ll be using micro-USB for a long time to come, it seems.
I used to use an iPhone X to move photos from my camera’s sd card to my ssd while traveling. The transfers took a long time and would definitely have benefited from faster transfer speeds.