• blackbelt352@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m saying that this should be compared by amounts of alcohol vs. amounts of caffeine, and then arbitrated somehow (say, “x grams of caffeine should be equivalent to x grams of alcohol”).

    Please point out in the original post where anyone was talking about caffiene vs ethanol. The original poster said they gut instinct felt that people drink more alcohol than coffee, I provided a statistical source that contradicted that gut feeling about coffee vs alcohol. Now we’ve spiraled into some asinine overly complex “well we should calculate how much caffiene is in ever single cup of coffee because coffee has different form factos and calculate how much ethanol is in every single glass of alcohol because alcohol has different form factos and then normalize them against each other because they have different effects” that no statistician would ever dream of trying to attempt.

    This is at best a bad faith argument of you trying to show how massive your brain is to strangers on the internet by being a contrarian dickhead.

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      Please point out in the original post [SIC - clearly referring to the comment] where anyone [SIC - as if there were 2+ people behind the OP, or behind the top level comment] was talking about caffiene vs ethanol.

      This implies that I claimed that the OP was about “caffiene” (caffeine) vs. ethanol. I did not, and you’re either being disingenuous or seriously lacking basic reading comprehension.

      I brought caffeine and ethanol up for obvious and contextually relevant reasons. Look at the context and even you’ll notice why.

      The original poster said they gut instinct felt that people drink more alcohol than coffee, I provided a statistical source that contradicted that gut feeling about coffee vs alcohol

      And I showed why statistics for a single specific/random country don’t answer his question, and that the issue is more complicated than your “Or we can go with statistics instead of gut reaction.” implies.

      Now we’ve spiraled into some asinine overly complex “well we should calculate how much caffiene is in ever single cup of coffee because coffee has different form factos and calculate how much ethanol is in every single glass of alcohol because alcohol has different form factos [SIC] and then normalize them against each other because they have different effects”

      Want an abridged version? “You need some standard for this shit, caffeine vs. ethanol is a convenient one.”

      What seems to be “overly complex” for you is basic reading comprehension.

      Also, you forgot to mention the part where you bring irrelevant links up about Quantitative Chemistry methods, trying to “prove” that this shit is trivial and shooting one’s own foot in the process. Or that you moved the goalposts once your original claim was show to be fucking dumb.

      that no statistician would ever dream of trying to attempt.

      Standardising shit before drawing conclusions so you don’t get meaningless crap is a lot like basic reading comprehension: both things are extremely complex and inhumanely complex for you, but quite doable for other people.

      This is at best a bad faith argument of you trying to show how massive your brain is to strangers on the internet by being a contrarian dickhead.

      Oh look, someone got a crystal ball to assess the others’ “intentions” (“bad faith”). Oh wait no crystal ball, just an assumer making shit up.

      I already said the reason that I’m bringing this up. Also, if you really think that “caffeine” and “ethanol” are someone showing “big brain”, I have really, really bad news for you. (Doubly hilarious in the context that you were shaming the other poster for going by “gut feeling”, instead of searching stuff. Can’t be arsed to search a fucking word?)

      Given your lack of basic reading comprehension, I feel like you might be better off in Reddit. Seriously.