The Mozilla Firefox 118 web browser is now available for download ahead of its official release on September 26th, when it will be rolling out to various of the supported platforms.
I consider Firefox 118 a major release because it finally brings the built-in translation feature for websites. Previously planned for Firefox 117, the new translation feature will let you automatically translate websites from one of the supported languages to another.
The translation feature can be accessed from a new “Translate page” menu entry in the application menu (the hamburger menu on the far right side of the window). When clicked, a pop-up dialog will open in place to let you choose the languages you want to translate from and to.
This is huge. Big feature I was using chrome for and a privacy focused provider too.
Translation has been pretty clunky with extensions. I’m glad that there’s finally an integrated solution that isn’t MS or Google.
Translation is really cool. It’s rare we get new features these days, mostly it’s just better and better tracking protection which is nice also, but this feels very fresh.
Just keep doing things Google will never do, and show why it’s better for the user.
Just keep doing things Google will never do, and show why it’s better for the user.
I get that but Google has had built-in translation for years! There are other features that Chrome and Chromium-based browsers have that Firefox still doesn’t including, some sort of implementation of tab groups, easy profile switching, having multiple open simultaneously with only one copy of Firefox (you don’t need multiple copies of Chrome to have multiple profiles).
They dont have local translation, it requires sending data to Google.
That’s irrelevant for 99% people sadly, if people cared about that more they would have already switched to FF ages ago. Google Translate was the top dog for years (and still is for most scenarios) so people are more than happy that their translation was being done by the best service around.
Yes I know, but people who use and appreciate Firefox will like the feature. The majority don’t care as always. They run windows with full telemetry and use Chrome as a browser. :)
The world is filled with mostly “don’t care” people. Nothing we can do about that. They are also not thinking for themselves at all. Perfect slaves to the system.
You should edit the comment to mention that. I just thought you meant translation. While its cool its wouldn’t be beneficial except for users or in situations with unstable wifi or times when you have no internet but have pages load.
And privacy, that is the most important thing for me. Why would I want Google to see what I want to translate any more than I want them to see what web sites I visit and what I search for.
Floorp has those features and I’ve been thinking about switching for a while.
uuuuuh what?
Google has had built-in translation for years
Nope. The translation is not built in into Chrome. It’s running on Google. That’s like saying Chrome has “built-in Wikipedia”!
some sort of implementation of tab groups
There’s like 12 to choose from in Firefox. (Still, admittedly, not nearly as good enough as Tab Groups were in Opera Presto, or in Firefox Aurora)
easy profile switching
this one is defo conceded. There is a profile manager, but they’ve never made it accessible while Firefox is itself running, not that I know.
having multiple open simultaneously with only one copy of Firefox
¿??? This has existed since at least 2011 in Firefox. Not to mention there’s also
--no-remote.
Google has had this feature in Chrome for YEARS, bro.
No this translation doesn’t send data to Google, it is local.
Well, it’s a website, i bet google already has access to whatever might get translated…
No its a feature in Firefox. A firefox button you can press to translate the website. I played with it this morning and it’s pretty cool. Animates the text as it is being translated, without sending the data anywhere.
I know
I am saying that google is already in business of scanning websites, so sending another website to Google is like throwing a bucket of water in the ocean.
Of course it depends what else gets sent along, so it’s always better to run locally
this should just be an extension. browsers have so much bloat nowadays. how are people, who can’t afford a new PC, supposed to browse safely, if the updates don’t fit on their system?
I know old, poor people who have old tablets and can’t afford anything else. even if they could download and install it on their too small SSD, it uses 250 MB RAM doing nothing. They’ll need to switch to Pale Moon, soon.
I remind you, 20 years ago, Firefox (then Phoenix) was a 50 MB install and would run with 16 MB RAM, showing websites in multiple tabs.
If 250 MB of ram is an issue then you probably aren’t doing much modern web browsing. I have what I’d think are basic pages that are using 200MB of ram. Same if you don’t have the 300mb of free space, god have mercy on your soul if you’ve got less than a gig free.
The amount of ram this feature takes up is negligible compared the the bloat of modern webpages. Plus I’m sure there’s an about:config setting to disable it if you want to go crazy.
yes, exactly. those old, poor ppl i know have 512 MB RAM. their OS will use about 200MB (after startup update checks etc). if they start firefox with a blank tab, it will use 248 MB RAM. two tabs with pages and they get warnings to close apps to avoid data loss. now firefox needs more RAM every release and webpages too. those ppl will have to switch to Pale Moon soon, but they are not familiar with it. they will likely not be able to use the web any more. all this, just because mozilla added stuff like VPN ads, pocket, etc… useless for most users.
Please download that version and run it.
You will come screaming back for modern versions.
idk what your point is. the rendering engine can’t do newer HTML, because it didn’t exist back then. however, this old version was awesome and ran insanely fast. Extensions and tabbed browsing were available since 2002 and it had builtin popup and image blocking. You were able to move entire toolbars wherever you want (this feature has been removed lately). The download was 6 MB.
It was fast and light because it didn’t have to do what is required of modern HTML. Times change, things evolve, and systems become more capable of running them.
Oh and what is that? Displaying a webp? Checking a hash against a DB of known attack sites? Yeah, that justifies the need of 4000% more RAM /2
I remind you, modern HTML is shorter and more optimised. JS and CSS existed back then. Back then animated GIF and complex Framesets were everywhere, too.
You need to look up the capabilities of modern HTML/JS/CSS. Hell, trying to run old browsers now breaks a huge number of sites that rely on modern browsers to do very simple things and do them effectively. Also, you know, using accelerated graphics to render things makes things a ton faster and smoother than the old days.
You’re caught up in the “older is better” mentality without any justification as to why certain older things are better. Some things have evolved and rightfully so, like browsers.
No, I’m not caught up in this and no, I don’t need to look that up, because I’m a software developer doing mostly web stuff. somewhere earlier in this thread I also mentioned the older version can’t do new HTML. However, most things websites do have earlier been done with less capable, less optimized HTML, CSS and JS (and plugins like flash).
I mean sure, it ran fast but the reason is that it couldn’t do what today’s browsers can. Software today is enormous though. But it runs in 4k at 144Hz, so it’s hard to compare.
While I agree, I think there’s a pretty large community (like myself) who will use this regularly.
Though I’m unsure of the statistics on how many would use it. If it’s under 50% for sure should have been an extension.
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Because it’s just using a pre existing translation package. It’s not a big and complicated system, the big and complicated part was done by someone else
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Who needs profiles? If more than one user uses your computer, use separate logins and Firefox will have different profiles for each login.
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Try container tabs, it’s built in, and they’re perfect for multiple logins like that.
Sounds like you need 3 system logins to keep everything straight. Problem solved.
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Different websites with different users? That’s… um… you know… the way the internet works. Did you mean the same website with different users? Because there is a logout button on websites, you know. And FF saves logins to make it easy to switch.
I think you’re just trying to create a situation where you think you need something when you really don’t. Simplify.
Firefox does that trivially with container tabs, which I would argue are a far better solution anyhow.
It’s not exactly the best UX I have seen in my life, but you can enter
firefox -Pin a terminal or you can open theabout:profilespage to start a window with another profile.
lets get tab groups, how is that missing at this point. I want to use FF as my main browser but the available options for organization are horrible
Still waiting on .mkv support
It took Firefox this long to get a feature that Chrome had for years…
Wow the FOSS community is way behind the curve.
I literally think the only reason Firefox remains relevant is for those who don’t want Big Brother watching their every move.
This is very different. Chrome sends all of your text to Google
