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    This seems like a really cool thing to put onto law, but I wonder 1.) If it’ll actually survive federal review, and 2.) If it’ll make a meaningful difference in the amounts of gun violence in the state. I feel cynical for saying this, but I just feel like the central role guns play in the American mythos makes it really hard to solve this cultural problem with taxation and educational campaigns.

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      I don’t think there’s really a lot the feds could do here aside from saying states imposing their own commerce taxes is unconditional somehow, which would hurt red states A LOT more than California being annoyed at being micromanaged.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California will double the taxes on guns and ammunition and use the money to pay for more security at public schools and various violence prevention programs under a new law Gov.

    He argued that gun violence already costs taxpayers a lot of money in health impacts and in the criminal justice system.

    Newsom also signed a law that, starting July 1, 2028, would require all semiautomatic pistols sold in California to have microstamping technology.

    That means each bullet would have a unique marking making it easier for law enforcement to trace the gun it was fired from back to its owner.

    They are an unconstitutional retaliatory and vindictive response to the Supreme Court’s affirmation that the Second Amendment protects an individuals’ right to choose to own a firearm for sport or to defend your family,” he said.

    A legislative analysis of the law Newsom signed on Tuesday said it is now an “open question” whether a lawsuit challenging the tax would be successful.


    The original article contains 872 words, the summary contains 167 words. Saved 81%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    i’m a conservative christian and even I can’t figure out why people are so obsessed with guns here. It’s absolutely insane. Isn’t the entire point of a strong military that we don’t need to have AR15s in our closets? IF you really want to play around with more than a simple hunting rifle, maybe you should join the national guard or military yourself instead of LARPing as a soldier?

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        The problem is actually the two-party corporate system, not the average citizen trying desperately to make sense of it. Voting is a formality and changes nothing. The gun stuff comes from the legal end of things. This problem won’t be solved by a ballot measure from either side getting voted on. It’s a philosophical issue. And to understand issues like this, you have to talk to the real people who hold the opinions. Have you ever actually befriended someone who is obsessed with guns?

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        agreed. let me check my bible…i don’t recall jesus ever recruiting a militia and marching around with bows and sling shots enforcing his law on the public. of course, you know that many groups of humans have done this over the years, many of them nowhere close to christian.

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          I have no idea what you’re trying to convey here.

          My point is that calling yourself a “Christian” and also being and voting for American conservatives is hypocritical in the extreme. Feel free to refute my actual point if you please, but I think Jesus was FOR feeding the hungry, but I might be mistaken.

          Last “militia” like activity I remember would be Jan6, and I bet lots of them go to church and call themselves Christian conservatives

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    More wasted taxpayer money as courts strike down this obviously unconstitutional law. As a Californian, I’m sick and tired of my taxes being frittered away in the defense of indefensible laws.

    You can’t tax an enumerated right. How can this possibly be anything other than an illegal infringement?

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      Awww…. You poor thing. Texas loves passing laws that allow people to murder one another. Maybe go there?

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        I get you don’t like guns but what if we instituted a poll tax? If you aren’t wealthy enough to vote you must not care about your representation enough. Taxing enumerated rights is dangerous. If you don’t like the right, do the hard work of changing the constitution.

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            It’s a false equivalence because of the 24th Amendment.

            Amendment Twenty-four to the Constitution was ratified on January 23, 1964. It abolished and forbids the federal and state governments from imposing taxes on voters during federal elections.

            Prior to that, poll taxes were legal. Just as taxes on guns and ammo are legal. Every state with a sales tax afaik applies it to guns.

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        Maybe move back to England where your lilly ass would be milking the kings cows if citizens were never allowed to bear arms.

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          Seems things are hand-over-fist better there as it is than things are in America when it comes to dipshits with firearms, wouldn’t you agree? I mean, I don’t see anyone there complaining about their rights to murder school children like you knuckleheaded Cletuses do here.

          So, in essence, I’d fucking love to move there. It’s safer. And they respect life.

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            That’s because they’re complaining about all their other rights being taken away en masse.

            Wanna know what makes things like protests work in the U.S.? That’s right, the underlying threat of violence (with guns).

            I can’t believe it, there are posts daily about authoritarianism on the rise globally (that means in the U.S. too) and there are still idiots that think guns are the problem. It’s genuinely mindblowing. You’re just another authoritarian that paints itself in leftist colors.

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                Weird how little you have to say.

                Remember, you don’t live here. Don’t weigh in on things that don’t concern you. Ok buddy?

                Oh and you are absolutely an authoritarian, judging from your comments. You are the reason I will not stop advocating for gun rights.

                Stay mad you wannabe dictator.

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                  Want me to say more? Okay!

                  I live in Seattle WA. So according to your rules- I can say however much or little I wish. And for the record- the same would go regardless of wether or not I live in the states or abroad. It’s only fuckwits like you that think there’s some unwritten rule that dictates who can and can’t speak up based on the irrelevant notion that the geographical location of one’s birth is what permits the right to opine.

                  But I’m guessing this doesn’t stop your dumb ass from sharing what you think of other countries, does it?

                  I’m also guessing that the reason you thought I was a foreigner is because your limited logical processes couldn’t possibly fathom a born-and-and-raised American speaking negatively about their country could you? Yeah. That’s called “free speech.” Brave men and women throughout our history have died for this right, remember?

                  And for the record… blowhard douchebags like yourself are you are exactly why people hate Americans. If it’s not your insufferable smug arrogance, it’s your willful ignorance when discussing things you know nothing about, and the false notion that you have some sort of authority in delegating who can and can’t do what they feel they need.

                  And sadly, your obnoxious bullshit happens to be so loud that it drowns out any reasonable discussion. So foreigners are left to assume it’s just people like you that live here.

                  So how about you stop fucking it up for the rest of us, sit down, shut up and get yourself a bit of common sense and self-awareness before you chose to embarrass yourself on the internet.

                  Was that enough, Cletus? Should I say more?

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      So you think poll taxes and steps to stop people from their constitutional right to vote is bad too? Or is it only unconstitutional if you can’t murder people afterwards?

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        Yes, I believe any law that is meant to prevent people from exercising their right to vote is bad. And why the obsession with murder? The vast majority of gun owners are peaceful, wonderful people. Your bigotry is exhausting.