• Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.websiteOP
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    You just insulted entire groups of people (that exist outside of reddit) by calling them morons and then said you won’t take the time to be respectful towards people.

    You are actively part of the problem and you do not have the right to complain.

    You don’t get to disrespect people pre-emptively and then whine that no one respects you or gives you the benefit of the doubt. You aren’t giving it to them so why would anyone bother giving it to you?

    Id recommend checking that behavior because it is 100% the cause of why people don’t “give you the benefit of the doubt.”.

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      You aren’t giving it to them so why would anyone bother giving it to you?

      Isn’t that the point being made by he/she/they? (now I don’t know what to call @Bondrewd )

      I don’t think Bondrewd was “preemptivelly” calling them “morons”. The way I read it, Bondrewd was referring to those “who don’t give me the same benefit of the doubt”. Bondrewd did not specify if those who complained belonged to any particular “group of people”, what was said is that they did do that so, given that, he won’t bother.

      Also note that there’s more than one party here… the ones scolding/complaining are not necessarily the same ones being “misgendered”, so that’s why there can be different "they"s involved. The ones that don’t give the benefit of the doubt (regardless of whether they are the ones being misgendered) are the ones that, according to your own statement: we don’t have to “bother giving it to them”

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        You might want to read his other comment before you stand by that assessment.

        If they dont give me the benefit of the doubt, I will gladly insult them for talking shit.

        I dont really care about rights, as that was never really given to me in my life. I speak up about things I feel that need to be spoken up on.

        I didnt say I dont give them respect. I said I dont go out of my way to not cause tears. If for some reason they suspect me of malicious misgendering, and start bitching about it, they can just piss off. I dont misgender, except for comical purposes.

        “I didn’t say I don’t respect them. I said I don’t go out of my way to disrespect them. I just make jokes about misgendering people.”

        Sounds a lot like going out of your way to disrespect people to me.

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      If they dont give me the benefit of the doubt, I will gladly insult them for talking shit.

      I dont really care about rights, as that was never really given to me in my life. I speak up about things I feel that need to be spoken up on.

      I didnt say I dont give them respect. I said I dont go out of my way to not cause tears. If for some reason they suspect me of malicious misgendering, and start bitching about it, they can just piss off. I dont misgender, except for comical purposes.

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        I’m sorry but your comment is nonsense.

        You say that “If they don’t give you the benefit of the doubt, then you will insult them”. You then claim “I didn’t say I don’t give them respect.” But that’s immediately proven wrong by the last bit of the comment.

        You say that you need them to give you the benefit of the doubt. When do you give it to them? In what situation will you give them the benefit of the doubt that there was a misunderstanding? Why do they have to be the one to cater to you? Why can’t you slow down and go “Hey, I didn’t mean this offensively, I meant it this way. I’m sorry. I assume you’re not being hateful, just frustrated by a misunderstanding. I apologize for that misunderstanding.” Why can’t you be the person to reach out?

        You expect everyone to give you everything first. This is direct proof that you don’t give them respect. You don’t respect any group at all unless they give YOU the benefit of the doubt first. YOU come first. It’s all about YOU. Every part of your comment is “me me me me me me” and the only part that’s about someone else is when it’s insulting. Then you openly prove you’re a liar by saying “I don’t misgender, except for comical purposes.” Based off of your comedy. Not theirs. Not considering anyone else in this situation, only considering yourself. What about their sense of humor? What if they were graphically beaten for being trans and are constantly misgendered by people who actively wish them to die? You gonna still make the misgendering joke? Because I can guarantee it’s comical for you but not the people you’re making fun of.

        So sit down, educate yourself, or fuck off. Because no one will ever want to engage with you if you’re going to act like yourself. Fix your personality and fix your considerations of other people. Quit bitching and moaning that someone thinks you’re being hateful when you’re actively being hateful. You might not have meant it that way but it is that way. Your meanings are utterly irrelevant because you are not the person who is being affected by the disgusting shit you say.

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          Those statements are not even in the same context. I have a basic level of respect I give and any more than that is expedient. If they dont respect that, then those are the fuckups that make it sure that I will never ever go out of my way just to please people.

          If you identify with the group that fucks with people like that, I cant help you. I guess you can take it as a direct insult, but then I actually dont care because you live and breath by being malicious.

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            I have a basic level of respect I give and any more than that is expedient.

            Is directly contradicted with

            I dont misgender, except for comical purposes.

            You are not giving a basic level of respect if you are using their existence as the butt of the joke. You don’t get to say others are 'living and breathing by being malicious" when you are doing exactly that. It really is as simple as that. You’re whining that you’re the victim because people have accurately pointed out that you’re making disgusting jokes about them. You’re not a victim. You’re being called out for shitty behavior. You don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore when you’ve so fully embraced the idea that you can insult others and get away with it but will give hell to anyone who does it to you.

            You can say I belong to whatever group you want but your opinion doesn’t matter. I’ve seen what you makes cheer. The fact that I make you boo, if anything, is a compliment.

            Now I’ve wasted more than enough time on someone who (rightfully) has been called out by multiple people multiple times. I’m going block you, let you fade into the oblivion from which you stumbled out, and move on with my life where I respect other people for who they are and don’t make fun of stuff about them.

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              I dont do it in a serious context. Internet troll culture is totally okay in my opinion.