• portsideaccord@rammy.site
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    They shouldn’t even gain ground, just drive out Russia. Attrition is currently in their favor and Russia is having to force their subjugated people to fight.

    One option of course is a people’s revolution at Russia.

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      1 year ago

      The OP screenshot reads:

      Zelensky tells CNN the war will not end so long as Crimea is occupied

      Crimea was lost to Ukraine in 2014. Taking Crimea means gaining ground that Ukraine did not hold before the war. This goal will prolong, not shorten the tragedy.

      Has Russia started a draft? What do you mean by ‘force their subjugated people to fight’?

      If there were a revolution in Russia today, do you think the new government would end the war?

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        1 year ago

        Crimea is Ukraine but currently occupied by the war started on 2014, as are the areas occupied by the later attacks.

        Putin’s succession is a power grab. There are no guarantees that the next one would be any better but there’s a chance that continuing the war wouldn’t be in the next ones interest.

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          Crimea is Ukraine but currently occupied by the war started on 2014

          That may be so but if Zelensky cannot maintain control over the land with which he started his premiership, how could he possibly hope to gain all that back as well as land that was lost before he came to power? If the Ukrainian military has only managed to maintain the parts of Ukraine that it currently holds after more than a year of war with soldiers, training, supplies, intelligence, and other support from NATO, what hope does it have of even regaining the land lost since 2021/2 by military force? I’m not talking about what might be ideal. I’m talking about what is feasible and realistic.

          There are no guarantees that the next one would be any better but there’s a chance that continuing the war wouldn’t be in the next ones interest.

          The answer to this riddle depends as much on NATO as it does on Russian politics. The only way that ending the war would be in the next leader’s interests is if they agree to sell off Russia to the US (again!—but they surely remember how that went the first time). Whatever the position was before the invasion, if Russia backs down now, NATO will be coming to slice Russia into pieces so that it’s ailing billionaire class has something profitable to invest in.