Screenshot of a screenshot:
Also, both can be equally bad.
So we’re finally at this stage where we’re full on defending Nazis. (Never those dang communists though because communists are eeeeevil for trying to make the world a better place for everyone 🙄🙄)
FFS.
So glad I’ve found this place and Hexbear.
- Clean Wehrmacht
- Clean SS <-We are here
- Clean Hitler
We’re going to have have “Clean Nazi Leadership” before Clean Hitler. We need them clean because a lot of them went on to be in charge of NATO and West Germany. Honestly we might already be there.
I’ve already seen it in action. Heard someone claim that it was Himmler and Eichmann doing the Holocaust behind Hitler’s back. Laughed it off as crazy fringe rambling but now…
This has been a claim for a long time. The “no smoking gun” “theory” which goes something like “there’s no direct evidence of Hitler planning and directing the Holocaust therefore it can’t be pinned on him/Nazis broadly.” The idea is it was overzealous careerist types like Heydrich who twisted the words of Hitler (who wrote and spoke extensively and explicitly about extermination of the Jews…) and, yeah, essentially did the Holocaust without Hitler’s full knowledge to impress him or whatever. It hinges on a semi-truth that many top Nazis were careerists sucking up to Hitler, however that doesn’t absolve them nor him of genocide…despite right wing logic-bros’ efforts. “Himmler didn’t really want to kill all those innocent people, but he was afraid he wouldn’t get promoted otherwise😔”
(Do I need to point out that this is obviously bullshit and I’m just explaining the “logic” employed by those who seek to “clean” Nazi ideology and Hitler by trying to separate him from the atrocities that he wrote about, spoke about and of fucking course knew about and actively wanted to happen? I remember going over this stuff in a college Holocaust course years ago under the Holocaust denial portion of the course, which the belief that “Hitler might not have known/approved of it!” definitely falls)
I can’t tell exactly what stage we are at but it’s looking like we’re closer and closer to collapse, at least here in Canada.
He is right, both Nazism and Canada have to be abolished.
The only good centrist take.
And they call us tankies fringe. Smh.
If your options are “Stalin or Hitler? You must choose to live under one of them!” What would you pick?
Stalin. Easy. Didn’t even have to think about it
You’ll pick the one less likely to kill you and your family! The answer depended on who you were!
Yeah, I’m not a Nazi, so I’d be safe under Stalin.
Gonna post this again apparently lol
That was one wierd scratch.
again for the Eastern Europeans
“UGH why can’t these Untermenschen just accept my superior wisdom?! Must be their barbaric genes, clearly they are not cultured enough for self governance”
Piece of shit.
He’s one of many making these statements. Considering the trends on Twitter, I’m afraid things are going to get much worse until they get better.
I hold onto the naive hope that these people arent the larger opinion
It’s gotten a lot harder for me as I’ve seen people in real life, in the same room, share similar sentiments. If not defending a Nazi soldier outright, then it’s them encouraging the war.
An inevitable experience of a dedicated western communists is beginning to see how the vast majority of the people around you are crypto fascists that need to be shoved in a prison.
going to get much worse until they get better
They’d get better sooner if it was their countries where matters got worse; every time matters get worse it’s non-Westerners who have to foot the cost.
WW2, while horrific, gave Europe the kick in the butt it needed to make some serious changes and that’s because they had to experience the horrors of war themselves.
That’s what I’m saying, the west is going to have to fall into outright fascism for any progress to made.
the quotes that have come out of EU politician mouths during the Ukraine conflict are undistinguishable from shit Goebbels would say. The Europe is a garden speech is straight up Goebbels/ himmler shit.
But somehow it doesn’t seem to be ringing any alarms
That can only mean one thing: Europeans/ westerners don’t mind these types of things being said.
It’s what’s most euros has been thinking all the time
These mfs be the type to rip the 9-volts out the smoke detectors and then look at the firefighter like “well sir i have no idea how the whole block erupted in flames centered on my house”
Nazi Generalplan Ost planned for the post war extermination of 50-90% of most ethnic groups in Eastern Europe. Even if we accept his premise of chosing between Hitler and Stalin, the correct answer in retrospect is obviously Stalin.
Why’s it always a hwhite scruff-neck saying shit like this
This guy was one of the weirdos going on the defense for Nazis after the Canadian Parliament fiasco. I think this is a trend for him because a few years ago he made a tweet about how his Jewish friends said he’d side with the Nazis if he was in Germany during the 30s, he of course refutes that accusation because Nazis killed gay people, but it looks like those friends were right to assume his a fascist. I can’t find the screenshot of the tweet but I swear it’s real.
Shit like this is deadass why I stopped fuckin with settler-liberal queers. I never had this issue with queer folk in community; my experience is that it’s always the settlers who once you get comfortable around them, you relax a little, and they’ve gotten themselves good and ingratiated in your circle, they show whole-ass with whatever flavor of reactionary fuckin nonsense they brought with them.
Theres this dude who has a lemmy instance called lgbt.lib or some shit like that who is the very definition of this.
holy shit so i’m not the only one. i’d much rather like to hang out with commie queers too. liberals are unbearable, queer or not. (though, queer liberals are an exceptional kind of stupid)
Someone needs to break into this guys house and scare the fuck out of him, for once in his life he needs to feel danger goddamn
Oh hey there. I’m gonna be annoying for a sec. Remember when we had a rather heated discussion on white people and slavery? You have expressed concerns regarding my “defensive” reaction to the meme.
This is why I was like I was. This here post. This is why I absolutely refuse to be lumped together with the Anglos and especially the USA (Canada is extension of USA). Because these assholes sure as fuck owned slaves at some point. They sure as fuck benefit to this day from colonial plunder, from plunder from my own homeland and the rest of USSR’s corpse. And then they turn around and lecture me and my oh-so-hwyte people and applaud to the monsters that have spent years slaughtering us, whom they’ve sheltered.
We are not like this filth. Don’t let skin colour tell you otherwise.
Based on the other people that came to your defense, that does make a lot of sense. Why I at least try to clarify at this point that when I’m saying white folk, I’m talking overt OG Amerikan settlers the flavor you describe. Just… When I’m dealing with the settler-borne Amerikan yt queers, this is the exact vibe I see. It’s like, they’re either “not all Nazis were bad people”, “all lives matter”, “opinions imported from TERF Island”, or “they-person, roma-hater”; sometimes a pick-two or pick-three.
(And no, I don’t consider the response annoying; you didn’t deserve the strays you were catching last week. Just, I see that kind of trigger phrase coming out of the aforementioned OG Amerikan settlers so goddamn often that it makes me turn my brain off and go on the offensive.)
We’re on the same page then. No hard feelings?
None whatsoever, homie.
I’m just throwing it out there.
Nazi apologist liberal cowards “just throwing it out there” because they’re only applauding the goosestepping parade, not goosestepping. Yet.
This man doesn’t understand you can address both Canadian war crimes and Nazis (sometimes a person does both!).
Speaking of “not all Nazis are bad”, didn’t the main character in The Sound Of Music literally have the hots for a Nazi? I always thought that movie was fucked up, like it shows the cute blonde family playing in the grassy mountains at the end, but kinda doesn’t address any feelings of guilt they may have. Like I heard that most people didn’t know about the Holocaust until deep into the war, but the movie was made way after WW2, so we know what happened and that the ending is ANYTHING but HAPPY for the vast majority of people involved. So even if the characters don’t feel guilty, the audience damn well better.Has anyone who’s seen it more recently know if they have a sort of reveal that the Nazis are genuinely evil or is it like a Hogan’s Heroes thing where they’re just sorta mean?
there was a lib part where they just asked the nazi to not be a nazi lol
The western allies didn’t even ask for that much.
no, actually, it was a requirement on the job offer
Yep, lol. Literally when they took Ukrainians into Canada, a way of proving they were anti-communist was to show their SS tattoo.
The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi
There is a small handful of good Nazis. People like Oskar Schindler and John Rabe who used their positions in the Nazi Party to save a lot of people. Comparing a generic Waffen SS man to them is like pissing on their graves.
Mike goes in the
for re-education.TIL we turned a German city into a firestorm and killed 25,000 civilians
I mean not so different from what the germans and americans were doing lol
I mean I’m not about to run defence for Nazis by deploying this fact but I’m surprised I didn’t find out earlier
Same, I honestly had no idea.
you barely even have to scratch them anymore
The slope wasn’t even slippery, it was just a fucking cliff, went from nazis are evil and bad to, a lot of them weren’t actually Nazis, and with the fucking rainbow flag to boot. The nazis exterminated gay people you dumb fuck, nazis from the Galicia region murdered poles and Jewish folk and other “undesirables”. I just dont get how dumb this stupid fucks can get.
Oh trust me, he knows the Nazis targeted gay people, he used that as a defense against his Jewish friends who were calling him out; they told him that if he was around in Germany in the 30s he would’ve sided with the Nazis and to prove he would’ve been killed alongside his Jewish friends he pulls up this picture:
I still can’t find the tweet where he did this but it’s real.
Jesus fucking christ
He must have deleted it. His original post about Eastern Europeans is gone now.
Yes, when he was originally getting heat he deleted his account, came back but privated, and now it looks like he’s on a tweet deletion spree. Thankfully people took screenshots.
What ppl ignore is that those “good men” who served in the Wehrmacht were complicit in its atrocities in ine way or another. “Bubububudafamileez!” that makes it 10 times more fucked up since the guys who do massacres have a family back home.
