Boot camp for the US Navy is 10 weeks and that’s before any kind of professional training. Marines have 12 weeks followed by another 8 weeks of combat training just to be an infantryman.
What could you possibly learn in 5 weeks? Even my horticultural entomology class is 8 weeks and I don’t think that’s long enough to learn about bugs impacting a single crop.
The point is a) money for the western and specifically US military industrial complex and b) killing Russians. And make no mistake, in the eyes of most of the West a Ukrainian is still basically just another kind of Russian at the end of the day.
They don’t admit it in public but in private this is how they talk, those at the top who are masterminding all of this, not the everyday rubes who have just learned last year where Ukraine is and who have simply been swept along by the media narrative and are genuinely so naive that they believe the West just wants to help poor Ukraine.
So for them this is a win-win. The more Russians and Ukrainians die, the less of them there are to be able to challenge the West once the Ukrainians inevitably wake up from the grip of this idiotic nationalist ideology and realize again that they and the Russians are one people.
Some of the more intelligent among the Kiev regime realize this too. Arestovich for instance has said it out loud: if the West stops backing this war and if Russia and Ukraine as a result reunite again, their combined military might will pose an existential threat to the West, they would be unstoppable.
I don’t understand about these Arestovich type of guys, they once were advisors of presidents then went away for safety. Now they speak for integration or whatnot . This whole fiasco is so fucked up on many levels.
The point of a forever war is not to win it but to keep it going.
As for why the Ukrainians are going along with this, well i don’t usually get into the inner workings of the Kiev regime because i find it both irrelevant (as they are just puppets of the West) and boring, plus their days are numbered anyway so why bother? But the case of Arestovich is morbidly fascinating to me.
Arestovich is highly manipulative sociopath, he doesn’t seem to buy into the nationalist propaganda but he is more than happy to use those who do to advance his own position. Which is not hard to do as every time you see him give interviews with pro-Kiev Ukrainian media you can clearly see that intellectually he runs circles around most of the mouth breather Nazis he surrounds himself with. He’s certainly more intelligent than Zelensky, who if he had any sense would never have found himself in the situation he is in now, a hostage of the Nazis and forced to keep fighting a war he has no chance of winning.
At the moment Arestovich is telling more truth than the rest of the Kiev junta and likely advertising himself to the Western elite as the “voice of reason”, probably gunning for Zelensky’s seat once Z inevitably outlives his purpose for the West and he is disposed of one way or another.
Anyway, yes this whole conflict is quite a mess but it is one that has been thrust upon Russia and now needs to be dealt with. The entire Kiev garbage heap needs to be thoroughly sanitized, scrubbed clean of not just the Nazis and the various criminal corrupt lowlife thugs and Arestovich type sociopaths who have embedded themselves in the Ukrainian state and society, but also the myriad tentacles of the CIA, MI6 and their assorted NGOs. And the only way to do that is to win on the battlefield as the West refuses to let go of its pet project Ukraine otherwise. Once the battlefield collapse comes so will the collapse of the whole proxy regime and of the Western position in Ukraine.
Here’s some more of my take on him for those interested:
He’s a marginal figure now in the Kiev regime, mostly just a media figure and commentator, but he used to be one of Zelensky’s top advisors before things started to turn really bad in the war, and like the more intelligent people in the regime he has distanced himself sufficiently from the main leadership circle to not be taken down along with the rest of them when the shit hits the fan. Rats fleeing the sinking ship and all that.
Another curious fact: he used to be part of the same tv/showbusiness clique as Zelensky before Z became president but unlike most of the people from that group i believe he also had some kind of military intelligence background.
The most interesting thing is that there are interviews with him that you sometimes see circulated online which he gave years before this conflict ever started where he predicted a lot of how things eventually turned out (likely because he was hanging around the ultra-nationalist circles who were already planning this conflict back then), for instance that Ukraine would have to start and fight a very bloody war with Russia before the West would allow them into the EU and NATO.
He frequently says things that are surprisingly lucid and honest for someone associated with this bunch of clowns and pathological liars in Kiev, if extremely cynical and often downright psychopathic. For example one of the things he is most notorious for saying is that he admires ISIS for their brutality and intimidation tactics (the executions by decapitation especially impressed him). He also openly says that Ukraine is an extremely corrupt society and that basically the most distinguishing characteristic of Ukrainians is the degree to which they are lying to themselves and deluding themselves about reality.
Nowadays his takes have become much more pessimistic/realistic than of those around him on the pro-Kiev side, who, at least in the media still keep insisting that they will achieve total victory. You can see how shocked and dismayed about his predictions his interlocutor is in this interview. And even this he probably knows is far too optimistic a prediction, but he can’t tell these poor idiots who still believe all the lies their media is telling them the whole truth, he would be accused of being a Russian agent.
Overall one of the more dangerous and intelligent figures on the side of Kiev, most definitely a high functioning sociopath, but a quintessential unprincipled opportunist who sees which way the wind is blowing and given the chance he would probably defect and switch sides once the penny drops that all is lost.
the point is the same for all these careerist opportunist sociopaths, it’s to keep the paychecks coming in no matter what. winning for them is just as bad as losing, no more money to launder as “defensive aid”. as long as they can prolong the conflict they can keep coming up with plausibly beneficial scams to funnel public money into
Boot camp for the US Navy is 10 weeks and that’s before any kind of professional training. Marines have 12 weeks followed by another 8 weeks of combat training just to be an infantryman.
What could you possibly learn in 5 weeks? Even my horticultural entomology class is 8 weeks and I don’t think that’s long enough to learn about bugs impacting a single crop.
5 weeks of doing 20 push ups a day and you’re ready to kill the ebil ruskies
How these western governments function I don’t understand?
It’s simple, they just don’t care how many people die.
even so they should have a proper program to defeat the enemy . It is just so nonsensical . Whats the point of doing this war ?
The point is a) money for the western and specifically US military industrial complex and b) killing Russians. And make no mistake, in the eyes of most of the West a Ukrainian is still basically just another kind of Russian at the end of the day.
They don’t admit it in public but in private this is how they talk, those at the top who are masterminding all of this, not the everyday rubes who have just learned last year where Ukraine is and who have simply been swept along by the media narrative and are genuinely so naive that they believe the West just wants to help poor Ukraine.
So for them this is a win-win. The more Russians and Ukrainians die, the less of them there are to be able to challenge the West once the Ukrainians inevitably wake up from the grip of this idiotic nationalist ideology and realize again that they and the Russians are one people.
Some of the more intelligent among the Kiev regime realize this too. Arestovich for instance has said it out loud: if the West stops backing this war and if Russia and Ukraine as a result reunite again, their combined military might will pose an existential threat to the West, they would be unstoppable.
I don’t understand about these Arestovich type of guys, they once were advisors of presidents then went away for safety. Now they speak for integration or whatnot . This whole fiasco is so fucked up on many levels.
The point of a forever war is not to win it but to keep it going.
As for why the Ukrainians are going along with this, well i don’t usually get into the inner workings of the Kiev regime because i find it both irrelevant (as they are just puppets of the West) and boring, plus their days are numbered anyway so why bother? But the case of Arestovich is morbidly fascinating to me.
Arestovich is highly manipulative sociopath, he doesn’t seem to buy into the nationalist propaganda but he is more than happy to use those who do to advance his own position. Which is not hard to do as every time you see him give interviews with pro-Kiev Ukrainian media you can clearly see that intellectually he runs circles around most of the mouth breather Nazis he surrounds himself with. He’s certainly more intelligent than Zelensky, who if he had any sense would never have found himself in the situation he is in now, a hostage of the Nazis and forced to keep fighting a war he has no chance of winning.
At the moment Arestovich is telling more truth than the rest of the Kiev junta and likely advertising himself to the Western elite as the “voice of reason”, probably gunning for Zelensky’s seat once Z inevitably outlives his purpose for the West and he is disposed of one way or another.
Anyway, yes this whole conflict is quite a mess but it is one that has been thrust upon Russia and now needs to be dealt with. The entire Kiev garbage heap needs to be thoroughly sanitized, scrubbed clean of not just the Nazis and the various criminal corrupt lowlife thugs and Arestovich type sociopaths who have embedded themselves in the Ukrainian state and society, but also the myriad tentacles of the CIA, MI6 and their assorted NGOs. And the only way to do that is to win on the battlefield as the West refuses to let go of its pet project Ukraine otherwise. Once the battlefield collapse comes so will the collapse of the whole proxy regime and of the Western position in Ukraine.
Never heard of Arestovich, thanks for the info CFG you always have good info and commentary.
Here’s some more of my take on him for those interested:
He’s a marginal figure now in the Kiev regime, mostly just a media figure and commentator, but he used to be one of Zelensky’s top advisors before things started to turn really bad in the war, and like the more intelligent people in the regime he has distanced himself sufficiently from the main leadership circle to not be taken down along with the rest of them when the shit hits the fan. Rats fleeing the sinking ship and all that.
Another curious fact: he used to be part of the same tv/showbusiness clique as Zelensky before Z became president but unlike most of the people from that group i believe he also had some kind of military intelligence background.
The most interesting thing is that there are interviews with him that you sometimes see circulated online which he gave years before this conflict ever started where he predicted a lot of how things eventually turned out (likely because he was hanging around the ultra-nationalist circles who were already planning this conflict back then), for instance that Ukraine would have to start and fight a very bloody war with Russia before the West would allow them into the EU and NATO.
He frequently says things that are surprisingly lucid and honest for someone associated with this bunch of clowns and pathological liars in Kiev, if extremely cynical and often downright psychopathic. For example one of the things he is most notorious for saying is that he admires ISIS for their brutality and intimidation tactics (the executions by decapitation especially impressed him). He also openly says that Ukraine is an extremely corrupt society and that basically the most distinguishing characteristic of Ukrainians is the degree to which they are lying to themselves and deluding themselves about reality.
Nowadays his takes have become much more pessimistic/realistic than of those around him on the pro-Kiev side, who, at least in the media still keep insisting that they will achieve total victory. You can see how shocked and dismayed about his predictions his interlocutor is in this interview. And even this he probably knows is far too optimistic a prediction, but he can’t tell these poor idiots who still believe all the lies their media is telling them the whole truth, he would be accused of being a Russian agent.
Overall one of the more dangerous and intelligent figures on the side of Kiev, most definitely a high functioning sociopath, but a quintessential unprincipled opportunist who sees which way the wind is blowing and given the chance he would probably defect and switch sides once the penny drops that all is lost.
the point is the same for all these careerist opportunist sociopaths, it’s to keep the paychecks coming in no matter what. winning for them is just as bad as losing, no more money to launder as “defensive aid”. as long as they can prolong the conflict they can keep coming up with plausibly beneficial scams to funnel public money into