A bunch of others are saying how they support Palestine but dislike Hamas or want a two state solution. There’s even a patsoc saying everyone should be allowed to live on whatever land they already are on. Basically “might makes right.”

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    If Israel doesent like being invaded, then perhaps it should have thought about not pissing off every adjacent nation a little sooner.

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    as comrade Jones Manoel says, is a western marxism martyrdom addiction, everyone is pro palestine while they are getting killed, but when they fight back, not so much pro palestine anymore.

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    "With all due respect, Jewish Bolshevism isn’t a legitimate organization just as much as you claim the NSDAP isn’t. Expropriating property, purging enemies of the state, the anti-kulak campaign and so on isn’t something I will ever respect or try to justify.

    I am a national socialist who lives in Germany. I am a Strasserite, and part of a left movement of national socialists who try to help and do the right thing, be it the rights of workers, the Jewish question, etc.

    I’m 21, I’m against killing all Jews and the stupid excesses of popular anti-Semitism.

    I AM furious with the situation, where the state protects people (usually non-Germans) who commit crimes against Jews based on simple prejudice, without any kind of political or racial consciousness.

    I DO feel sorry for the many Jewish soldiers who died for the Fatherland during the Great War.

    But honestly?

    2 million Germans were killed for nothing from 1914-1918 because the Jewish bankers stabbed us in the back. German children are stolen and sacrificed by their rabbis in evil bloodletting ceremonies, and kosher methods of slaughter are cruel and revolting.

    I am awake since 6:30, and all I can think of is destruction and torn families and people.

    I am mentally broken and dealing with Alarms all day while people inside the Reich (not Danzig or the lost regions) are locked inside their safe space for almost the entire day, while Jewish communist terrorists are plotting attacks just like the one that burned down the Reichstag.

    I want Jews to have the right to live in their own country (perhaps South Africa or Madagascar), but this has been one of the hardest days I’ve ever known in my entire life and I appreciate it if people don’t see this as an act to progress Jews (which it certainly isn’t) and see it the way you clearly and justly see any terror attack of an imperialist: a terror attack - nothing more and nothing less.

    I wish us all better times."

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      These are hakim viewers. They’re Ukr/Ru centrists. Someone in the comments complained that before people were fighting over Ukraine now people have to decide who to support in this.

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          By these people’s logic China shouldn’t have stood up to Japan because they weren’t socialist yet. “National Capitalist vs International Imperialist? I see no difference”

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            So much of the 20th century Communist revolts were propelled by anti-colonialism. One could sincerely make the “Communism has never been tried” argument by defining all these resistance movements as simple Soviet flavored nationalism.

            At some point, it just becomes a weird neoliberal argument against self-determination. Socialism isn’t even a part of it.

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              It will always be absurd to me how people think socialism can happen in the US without decolonization when decolonization is synonymous with socialism throughout most of it’s history.

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                Decolonization within the US is definitely a thing that could happen in our future. Prison riots. Climate refugees. Agriculture worker uprisings.

                They’re all on the frontier.

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              I’ve never understood why anyone would say that communism was never tried. Socialism has been tried and built (and its a pretty robust system), but don’t you need a hegemony of world socialist powers as a prerequisite to establish communism?

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                You’d need some kind of big continent spanning union of Soviet states. And when has that ever happened? :P

                I more mean that all these countries were emergent from the colonial system and loaded up with historical baggage. They were transitional projects.

                In the same way a handful of Dutch joint stock companies paled beside modern mega-corps, the states of Cuba and Vietnam are only beginning an experiment that won’t be fully realized for centuries.

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    “Oh boo hoo, poor me, it’s so hard to experience for one day what Palestinians in Gaza have been experiencing every single day of the year for decades…”

    This is war! You just don’t like it when the tables are turned on you, when you can’t just enjoy watching from a safe distance while Palestinians are getting slaughtered and virtue signal some bullshit about how sorry you feel for them but how violence is still never the answer.

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    Two state solution is a liberal narcotic that they’re all addicted to.

    Hamas is as much a terrorist cell as Henry Kissenger is to the Nobel Peace Prize. Liberals will always erase and rewrite history. Pray for Hamas!

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      “B-but, they’re not pure, innocent, peaceful secular organizations I can have peace of mind supporting.”

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    My word, it’s maddening seeing people I know give “land acknowledgements” the day before and who now have “I stand with Israel” social media photos. Liberals only know bandwagoning.

    Lost a ton of friends in March 2022 due to not bending the knee for Ukraine. Time for round 2 I guess.

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    Eat my ass. That’s all I have to say to this. Oh you support Palestinian until something actually happens towards that. Eat my ass.

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    liberal “centrists” most of the year- FREE PALESTINE.

    liberal “centrists” when Palestine fights back tremendously for liberation and right for independence- I strongly support the right of Israel to exist. This is nothing more than a terrorist attack.

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      “Centrists” are usually open Zionists. It’s the “progressives” that flip their position when the people rise up.