As a member of the LGBT community, I feel very frustrated that LGBT activism and the ideologies of our people are appropriated by liberalism and pro-America sections of the community to legitimize or justify imperialism by the western world or its puppet regimes in Israel, Japan, or other parts of the world. Especially during this revolutionary time for the Palestinian people, so many ridiculous statements come from distorted LGBT ideas such as “Leftists shouldn’t support Palestine because they don’t have gay marriage” or takes such as those which shift blame of genocide to the victim because they are not socially liberal enough to have the same kinds of social environments that are friendly to our community. The LGBT people of the third world were so much better off before western imperialism and evangelism which I must note. Many modern countries that exist today traditionally had acceptance or no historical reason for hating the LGBT members of society before their human progress was basically reset by evangelism. Ironically, the eurocentric and chauvinistic ideology that these liberals are engaging in is the type of behavior that caused the issues. It is a poorly disguised form of imperialism that obviously comes from the CIA so they can get their people to support Israel. When LGBT people are given propaganda to look down upon people who are suffering under genocide, it’s even a form of rightism ironically enough.
Pinkwashing of Israel is also a very real phenomenon. A zionist, fascist regime that regularly engages in the murder and imprisonment of innocent civilians and children is not a model for pride. The fact that I even need to articulate something like that, just shows how divorced liberalism(By that I mean Western ideology, not social liberalism) has become from actual reality. Mainstream media and the propaganda machine of the United States has damaged the minds of so many people beyond repair, to the point that even the LGBT community is under the ideological entrapment of the white house. People who are clinging to religious or cultural ideas of homonormativity will not have their minds changed by sending drones to blow up their homes and schools. We cannot allow the military industrial complex to distort the struggle for LGBT rights into a militant ideology that seeks to bomb and imperialize any country that does not have a gay president.
The community also needs to stop pinkwashing people in foreign governments or attributing good qualities onto them only because they are members of the LGBT community. Some of the worst collaborators of the United States manipulate the public with their identity simply to create a movement for themselves and to hide the actual nature of their ideology. Even some rightists in America are technically members of the LGBT community despite working with dangerous extremist organizations and parties that seek to take away the rights of our people. If you support people becoming leaders in America simply because they are members of the community you will have rainbow fascism, because the political systems of this country exist specifically so the people cannot have control of their own economy or threaten the interests of the major corporations.
Yeah liberal support for any cause is only to the extent that it advances imperialism. If it ever comes into conflict then their facade gets dropped in an instant.
Really, liberal activism is the modern form of the white man’s burden: Our society is progressive and free. Their society is backwards and tyrannical. So it’s our duty to “civilize” them.
On Lemmy.ML they are downvoting this. It’s crawling with liberals on other parts of the lemmy federation. You can’t say anything actually radical on that part of the site.
The lack of radicalism (instead faux radicalism) in the LGBTQ community is a great example of elite capture.
this is a bad take because there is a lot of radicalism in the LGBTQ+ community. There are entire PSL chapters where basically everyone is queer. (i would know, i helped start one) you just don’t hear our voices for a lot of the same reasons you only hear liberal BLM activists instead of the more radical ones or liberal feminists instead of proletarian feminists.
yea the social media algorithms will hit you twice for being socialist and queer as opposed to just one or the other
edit: additionally there’s the lying mainstream media
also the fact that cis het people often only wanna listen to queer people who already confirm their biases (whether its espousing a political position they agree with so we’re treated like tokens or just assume we’re all libs.)
Yeah I could have worded that better. What I meant was the pink washed “mainstream” version of the gay community. Like you said radical voices are maligned in the mainstream such as in any group.
This is blatantly not true. Some of the most radical and active members of the left are part of the LGBT community.
Yeah I could have worded that better. What I meant was the pink washed “mainstream” version of the gay community. Like the gay people our parents and grandparents are aware of.
definitely agree. and anyways, there are things more beneficial to queer people than bourgeois concessions that are paraded in the west such as the right to serve in the military (the fact that this was even a right liberals fought for is BEYOND me. so idiotic). stuff like free healthcare, free housing, labor protections are all way more important than the white house doing a pride event or whatever western nations show off as “progressive”.
bourgeois western nations will attack countries like palestine for not having the same level of these mundane concessions, but it’s pure hypocrisy anyways because these western nations actually do very little for queer people, and in the case of the united states, actively seek out to genocide trans people.
100%agree, and I believe the word is Homonationalism.
The more lefty queers, especially the queer anarchy types haaaaate being called nationalists and It’s somewhat helped me educate them to not fall into reactionary behavior. Haven’t tested it on a liberal lgbt person yet because they rarely find themselves in my circle.
Pretty colonialist of you to call sovereign nations “puppet regimes”.
Are nations sovereign if they strangely get a coup if they don’t do what the US wants, or is it possible that the US might quite literally be a colonizer?
South Korea, Japan, Israel and some others were physically occupied by the US gov or western colonial powers to have their regimes created. Many leaders who the west helps get or stay in power are also actively betraying their own people for the interests of the US government. This happens especially in the third world.
