• Raphael@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Burning crops, how many times do I need to repeat this part. They were also actively sabotaging collective farms.

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      1 year ago

      And how many times do I have to repeat this part? The amount of sabotage going on was almost certainly not enough to cause mass famine.

      Mass famine would require mass action. If there was enough rebellion to starve the country, it would have deposed the Soviet Union entirely.

      The maximum number on the people actually having rebellions was what? 150,000? That’s nothing.

      No, the famine was caused by misaligned economic incentives which fucked the entire system.

      Also don’t forget that a very similar famine resulted from mao trying the same shit. This is not a uniquely Soviet phenomenon.

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        1 year ago

        Millions of… millions of cattle killed.

        Mao’s famine was caused by killing birds, because he did not listen to science. We must always listen to science. That thing could’ve happened if China were a Christian Theocracy. There have been countless famines in history but you only care about communist ones.

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          Mao’s famine was caused by killing birds, because he did not listen to science.

          You’re missing about 10 other bad decisions in there, and you’ll never guess what those 10 decisions were related to.

          Millions of… millions of cattle killed.

          Again. If we killed all the animals right now in every country in the world we would have…

          More food.

          Animals eat food. They provide less than they eat, so if you took all the food that would have gone towards cattle and instead put them towards humans, you’d see people eating more, not less.

          I’m not totally going to say that that wasn’t a factor, but at the end of the day the famine in the Soviet Union still had a root cause.

          Say it with me and say it again.

          Shitty misaligned economic incentives.