Because of that, I’m eager to wait new offside rule to be applied asap
Ok, then I suppose i don’t know the offside rules anymore. The hand doesn’t count?
What body parts do count when deciding for an offside?
Any allowable body part that the player could use to touch the ball. In this case it would be Vini’s head.
I’ve been saying for a while attackers should go for runs leaning thier whole body back as far as they can. It will look very silly but if your feet are the most forward part of your body nothing else can be offside. I know it’s hard to get forward momentum running like this and I am joking before I get stupid comments
Yes offside by half a head, not even close
Offside rule should be updated. This should be a goal. Applying 2020s technology to a rule created decades ago is ridiculous.
As the laws of the game stand it is offside, however I do feel like it should be measured from the feet. I know you can score with your head, but there is always going to be a certain amount of lean while sprinting. Arms/shoulders shouldn’t come into play because a defender on the half turn is going to have their arm out for balance as they’re turning (shown in the photo). I’d prefer feet as the point of measure, but from the current rules it is offside. Fine margins at such high speed though.
If you look closely The defenders offside line is drawn from his knee a playable part of his body
it should be measured from the feet
This. They should look at feet only, that seems like the most fair. And to add to that I’d say one foot of the attacker would have to be behind a defender’s foot in its entirety for it to be offside, not just a toe.
Plus, generally it’s easier to just tell with the feet as they’re on the ground. No need for fancy graphs and close call lines.
I would prefer if any part of the attacker’s body is level with any part of the defenders body it is onside.
I would ask you why you think track running isn’t measured by the runner’s feet then as well. Why does a runner cross a finish line when they cross with their head and shoulders?
Why not just look at what can touch the ball without an infraction?
Head, shoulder, foot, etc, just no hands
That’s essentially what they do already. If you look at the photo The defenders offside line is drawn from his knee
yeah, I would prefer offside being like.
It’s based on the feet, and for VAR to overrule the onfield decision, the foot must be at least a set distance past the last foot of the defender to account for margin of error.
I don’t want to see any umming and ahhing about “oh, it’s milimeters off”, if it’s like… Less than 5cm, it’s onfield decision, especially if that distance could fall within the system’s margin for error.
Follow the way cricket does it for LBW reviews. The ball tracking must show over half the ball hitting/missing the stumps for it to be overturned, otherwise the onfield decision stands.
I feel that technology in sports work best when used to prevent clear mistakes in onfield judgements, not when used to split hairs on technicalities. Ruby has a great approach, onfield referee will say “Onfield decision is try, can you check for forward pass/grounding/whatever… Is that clear evidence to over-turn the try?”
I feel like football is too into trying to provide clear evidence to uphold the onfield decision, when that should be the default and it should be clear evidence to overturn otherwise you’re stuck forever in margin calls where no outcome can be clearly upheld.
I’m sorry but this is ridiculous. If you think for a second that offside was implemented to stop these types of goals, you’re anti football. Vini had almost zero advantage here. There needs to be a small buffer between lines.
There already is a buffer. In this image you’ve got about 6/7 inches from the attacker’s shoulder to the end of their sleeve, which is the furthest forward point that they’d use to draw the attacker’s line in this instance.
Offsides should be judged by foot position only, change my mind.
The call is obviously a correct one. My personal belief is that the laws of the game in conjunction with the technology we have should change to allow these plays to stand and count as goal. It’s frustrating to see such offsides like this stand when the reality is the attacker isn’t gaining an actual advantage with the 3 inches of space
UEFA should realy change rule for this nosense, this is killing football.
What a joke
shoulder is not considered a part of the arm when it ocmes to scoring a goal, is it not? So, great decision, albeit close
Didn’t see a lot of complaint when Bellingham scored a goal which he clearly handled, neither when he stopped the ball with his hand in own penalty box and penalty was not given.
Now you are crying for 1 mm error 🤣
Perfect example of why I tink the offside rule should be taken only the foot. The rule is there to stop goal tending. For me if an attacker times their run (which by the way, we celebrate attackers timing their runs as a strikers skill) and starts a foot race from behind the defender, then they should be considered on side. What advantage does Vinicius have here that the goal shouldnt stand, apart from timing his run exceptionally well?
The first thing that happens after a ball is passed, is a foot race. Not a shot. A foot race. So taking offside from the part of the body that can score makes zero sense. The number of goals scored that were not preceded by a foot race or movement of the feet into position, must be close to zero. Therefore the attackers advantage is not that they had a piece of goalscoring body part ahead of the defender, its that they were ahead of them in a race to the ball.
Is this not put forward elsewhere? Does anyone else agree? Feel like im losing my fucking mind.
firmly dislike how this is “offside”