Dogpilijg is dogpiling. If you don’t assume the most leftist position possible in the thread you get dogpiled to fuck. Are you actually blind?

Why are you so threatened by me?

I’m. Not. A. Rightie. Dickhead.

You attacked what you thought my politics was.

What Lemmy wanted me to say was “yeah I’m way more leftist now, more left is good. Left left left.” Updoots for everyone. It’s fucking sad as fuck.

Sure I do mate.

You stated it with the ad hominem attacks and the nastiness, just because of what you assumed I believed rather than actually what I believe.

This is what I mean, discourse is dead. I got dog piled for saying I’m less leftist than when I was younger, which is a cardinal sin in threads like this. Because people see things in black and white they think you’re basically Trump if you say something like that.

I didn’t realise being a left leaning liberal rather than a raging communist makes one a freak. Good to know. Thanks for actually trying to understand what I believe (/s)!

I’m not even a conservative, I’m a liberal/social democrat but nice try 👍

I don’t go apeshit when I see a trans person.

But thanks for assuming that because I disagree vehemently with typical leftist economics and their general tactics that I must be a raging transphobe.

Another example of the lack of nuance I referred to.

Step outside of your echo chambers once in a while mate.

More college communist to social democrat/left leaning liberal. But nobody has actually asked me what my views are which just goes to show how actually interested in discourse people are if you don’t just agree with the hive mind. You’re possibly the most level headed person on this thread.

Another example of how people think tugging a lever to have the most extreme leftist positions is the way to properly analyse politics. It’s low effort and requires no thought and makes you feel like a good person despite achieving nothing in terms of political change.

Leftists are the most condescending and smug people around.

They disparage the proletariat as being brainwashed and infantilise them rather than just accepting the fact people think they’re dicks.

Whenever you respond to them they just tell you to read theory or gish gallop.

They oversimplify solutions. Left populism is absolutely dangerous to young people in this political climate.

Many are more concerned with out virtuing each other rather than constructing workable movements for change that being people along with them.

Yes it absolutely does.

I’ve never watched Fox News in my life.

I don’t want to respond to people who just assume I’m American as is the case here. It makes it very difficult to even have a proper discussion.

I have no qualms with the people who just want to improve society in sensible ways, but you know the cohort I am referring to. These people arent your allies and are just as blind as the far right. They are over represented on Lemmy as you astutely observed.

Please open your eyes to how the right has driven the left to mimic them.

Yes, the far right are awfully shit too. But because the left is comparing themselves to people who can’t separate their arses from their elbows they are blind to their own biases and fallacies.

I’m not going to talk about public transport because it ostensibly is an incredibly localised issue.

I will say that most liberals are definitely not opposed to measures to combat climate change, it’s just that those measures need to be sensible and realistic and most importantly costed.

I also have never met liberals that are opposed to regulation of fossil fuel industries, but again the measures need to be sensible as the world economy is still reliant on oil and gas.

Causing giant economic crashes is the absolute worst thing you can do to combat climate change. Money, whether you like it or not, rules the world and dictates what we can do. Good intentions can have bad outcomes, this is absolutely what many don’t understand.

How has he said the exact opposite? Enlighten me.

Edit: he didn’t, for all the reasonable people who happen to be reading.

Why do you assume that liberals just want to maintain the status quo, when actually most of us want change but not the radical economy breaking change the left seem to want?

I think we understand importantly that nothing gets fixed if the economy isn’t healthy. The left view the economy very differently.

I don’t believe you.

You said in the grand scheme of things it’s conservative, which is pretty vague and meaningless and screams of “everyone who is to the right of me is a conservative QED”.

There is a reason the left are terrible at building election winning coalitions and shit like this is exactly why.