This is happening all over reddit.

Mods are posting all over the place saying “I have to bend over for the admins because if I don’t they’ll find someone else who will”.

You do you but honestly I find this a bit weird. As an unpaid volunteer you don’t have to do anything. Just resign. Reddit’s not about to die but it’s best days are in the past. I wouldn’t want to be a part of the future of reddit.

The biggest problem I see is fragmentation, people are creating the same community in different instaces, /c/Piracy for example.

I agree, to an extent. You’re right in that if you were part of the vibrant community of /r/piracy then it’s miserable to see it shatter here on lemmy. That said, this only applies if you’re expecting lemmy to be a 1 for 1 reddit replacement. For this type of community to remain cohesive, /r/piracy would have had to spin up their own instance and in /r/piracy direct everyone to lemmy.piracyinstance.whatever.

You can’t really “fix” this in a central way because even if you did, it would be trivial to create an instance that would allow duplicate community names. Also, I can see a lot of use cases for lemmy which do not intend to be federated.

That said, it’s not necessarily as big a problem as it appears, if you just accept that this is how the fediverse works. There’s no single source of control, so of course people can create 147 different /c/piracy communities if they wish to. Once you accept that, then it’s not really that difficult to subscribe to all the /c/piracy communities you can find.

The problem itself could be diminished by a few new features which I feel certain will emerge in the future:

• linked communities, where one communities content is syndicated to another. So if you post in [email protected] then you also post in [email protected]. This would work differently to cross-posting, all comments would be reflected on both instances.
• grouped communities, where you can subscribe to a group of /c/selfhosted communities with one click, so you see them all in your feed.

Hard disagree.

Getting over-run by blog spam is entirely foreseeable.

With a single dead mod it’s entirely foreseeable that we would have to relocate at some point which could be devastating when trying to preserve whatevers left of the community.

Looking at the list of instances there doesn’t seem to be any really perfect options.

Honestly I would be most comfortable with an instance administrated by several people. It just increases the odds that admins will know what they’re doing and not lose interest.

This is as good a place as any to ask… where should we set up shop? This community’s sole mod @[email protected] doesn’t seem to be active.

A number of different self-hosting related communities have popped up in the last few days. I’m concerned that without a single focal point we won’t hit a critical mass.

Is this the best place for us though? @[email protected] is the only mod and they don’t seem to be active.

Not really. It’s incredibly frustrating and I’ve def lost some faith in humanity.

I thought /r/selfhosted would be ready to jump but everyone is like “but there’s no users on lemmy” and “you’ll split the community” and “we’re going to go dark for two days - that will teach them!”

Consequently there’s been no support for any single refuge.

Additionally people have set up several communities here with similar names in the past but now mods aren’t responding so it’s all a bit of a mess.

I guess it depends on your definition of “self hosting” but I’m in the process of migrating a lot of my services to a remote vps on vultr. It doesn’t make much sense to have a big, hot server running at home that needs capacity to cope with peaks but isn’t used 99% of the time.

Sharing server resources with other virtual servers is the most significant least pain to benefit ratio action I can think of.

All that will really be left at home is a torrent client and gerbera (upnp) instance which can happily run on a NUC with an nvme. gerbera won’t do any transcoding so the load is negligible.

The reluctance of redditors to move to lemmy always amazes me.

Not surprisingly, there’s a lot of posts in a lot of subs about the recently announced changes. In every post the same pattern is repeated ad-nauseum:

• “i hate reddit, it sucks here, I’ve always wanted to leave, I’m never coming back once this happens”
• “maybe we should move the sub to lemmy so we won’t have this problem in future?”
• “but what about all our data, the wiki & post history and such”
• “but there’s no users on lemmy”
• “but that would split the community!”

This is the case even in the subs I would have thought would be really keen to jump ship, like /r/selfhosted

I think this type of approach is the right idea though, a better ecosystem can only be good.