Please see https://eviltoast.org/post/3963121 - we are now on 0.19.2! Thanks for your patience.

In case anyone is wondering, I’m still holding off on 0.19.1 because of this outgoing federation issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4288

There is an open PR for it that might fix it. Assuming it does, we’ll upgrade once it’s merged in and released.

threads.net is now on the blocked list. Please do leave a comment if you disagree with this decision!

Hello and welcome!

I was holding off on 0.19.0 because of some performance issues other instances were having. It looks like that is probably fixed now though with 0.19.1 released today.

Unless there are any more big issues, it’ll probably happen in the next day or so.

👋 I am leaning towards defederating w/ Threads. Lemmy 0.19.0 does have a feature to block instances at the user level, and I was thinking that might help when we upgrade. But with so many users on threads (compared to lemmy), I don’t think it’d be hard for threads to overwhelm everything.

I’m not even sure what sort of load impact it will have on servers. I can imagine a lot of instances will accidentally ddos themselves just by following stuff on threads.

There isn’t really a thought out stance on it so far.

I know a lot of instances are planning on preemptively blocking or defederating from threads, but I haven’t decided if that’s overkill or not.

I think it depends on if it ever actually happens, and also whether it ends up causing any issues. It probably won’t get blocked by default, but we also don’t want to get defederated and siloed from other instances.

What are your thoughts on it?

By bot account, I just meant an account that’s used by a script but not one anyone actually logs in to. Specifically, this guy: https://eviltoast.org/u/lemmyfollower

It’s one thing I do like about Lemmy so far. If people mark accounts as bots when they’re created, it makes it really easy to just filter out all posts made by bots. In your profile settings, you can turn off posts by bots and everything will be a lot less noisy because a lot of bots are just copying posts from reddit right now.

I left it unchecked sunce I’m not a bot lol.

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I agree. In its current form, it’s somewhat more similar to something like twitter (or mastodon) vs reddit, at least for newer small instances. I doubt they’ll make it so everything gets federated everywhere by default since that’d be pretty bandwidth and disk intensive, but it’d make sense to at least be able to show those historical threads.

https://www.search-lemmy.com is trying to index all lemmy instances. https://github.com/marsara9/lemmy-search/issues/20 is open to track opening those search results inside your home lemmy instance. Maybe lemmy-ui or one of the other frontends will end up integrating with it so that you can search for anything and have it pull the results into the instance you’re using?

You’ve got it right, I agree is kind of weird, but it looks like it is by design (so far): https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2825

I’m waiting for some sort of “remote” search, I think that’d solve a lot of weird issues if we could get results from more than just the local instance.

As far as I’ve seen so far, posts and comments only start showing up from the time you subscribe to a community. When you manually search for a specific community and subscribe to it, I think it does pull the last 20 or so posts, but not the comments for those posts. There’s no backfill or history fetching in lemmy.

The script I’m using to pull in popular communities is the same as searching for each community it finds, so it doesn’t actually subscribe or pull posts either. I might try that for a few days though and see what happens, I’m not sure how much it’d cause the disk or network to explode.

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Yup, it’s one of the main downsides so far. There’s not really a good built in way to discover remote communities yet.

There’s the lemmyverse link and a few similar apps that all aggregate communities into one list, using one of those is easiest imo for now.

I think I can finish the script I was working on to import all or most communities so that they show up in the search results, but the subscriber count will still only reflect the local users and not the real count.

firefox

Got it, thanks!

So on lemmy.world, we get:

Firefox@lemmy.ml - 1.48K subscribers
Firefox - 1K subscribers
Firefox@fedia.io - 752 subscribers
Firefox CSS - 146 subscribers
Firefox Customs@fedia.io - 30 subscribers
Firefox Browser (Linux und Android)@feddit.de - 30 subscribers
FF addons&extensions@lemmy.ml - 3 subscribers
Firefox@kbin.social - 3 subscribers

But on eviltoast.org, we only get:

Firefox@lemmy.ml - 3 subscribers
Firefox@fedia.io - 3 subscribers

The reason the others don’t show up is because nobody on this instance is subscribed to them yet, and haven’t searched explicitly for it. I’m working on a new script that populates the local list of communities from lemmyverse, but I also noticed the data there doesn’t match up with lemmy.world. On https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=firefox&order=posts I don’t even see [email protected] for some reason.

I was only going to automatically add communities with more than 50 posts/comments, but I might lower that too.

If you want to subscribe to something not in the search though, you can still do that by searching for the url of the community like “https://lemmy.world/c/firefoxcss”. You might have to give it a couple seconds and try again, but it should show up.

Thanks! I saw that last night and deployed a custom docker image w/ the patches before the official release could be made, so we should have been fine. We’ll update to the official release once it’s out. I double checked the database and made sure any comments/posts that were federated over with the exploit had been removed as well.

major communities only have like 3 subscribers,

I think it’s just due to the way lemmy is showing subscribers. If you go to https://eviltoast.org/communities?listingType=All&page=1 - it only shows the “local” subscriber count, so accounts from this instance subscribed to those communities even though those communities aren’t local.

There’s this feature request open to improve that, hopefully something similar will get implemented: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1824

I’m guessing the users/month is more accurate, but I haven’t checked how that gets calculated.

If you’re looking for specific communities, I’ve had better luck using https://lemmyverse.net/communities so far.

missing a lot of search results for communities

I’ll check, can you send an example of something missing?

Testing after upgrade to 0.18.1