• NovaPrime@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    So stop the impending societal collapse by…hastening societal collapse?

    There is a conversation to be had about reforms that absolutely need to be driven in the progressive arm of the Democratic party in general, but that is a separate conversation and one to be had through primary votes and reform (at least in the current iteration of the electoral system). What you’re advocating above is the equivalent of shooting myself in the dick to prevent an oncoming car from hitting me. The car is still going to hit me, but now I’ll also have a blown off dick.

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      1 year ago

      The current society is horrible. There is no reforming the united states. All current countries need to destroyed . The current order isn’t your ally you need to save but your enemy you need to destroy.

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        The current order, to which you mean the freely elected representation of the public. Maybe the people will rise up and then we can have a dictator be even worse as what always occurs in any communist system. That is because every communist system doesn’t get rid of the root of the problem, money and ownership. All it ever does is allow the powerful to take everything and leave nothing for the rest. See the USSR, North Korea, and China. Humans suck and communism is not the answer. The answer is a well-regulated free market system that rewards success, taxes the wealthy and provides for those in need. I think we will see that transition in the next 30 years in the United States, but the wealthy will be kicking and screaming the whole way as they lose power.

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          I am an anarchist so will not defend the Marxist-leninist states you attacked. The free market doesn’t reward success it rewards exploration of resources and people. Taxing the wealthy isn’t nearly radical enough you should be asking why there are wealthy people at all. Democracy is a sham of representation that never actually allows people to live their lives in accordance with their will. Humans don’t suck the current system rewards exploitative behavior yes but humans are very malleable.

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            1 year ago

            When your base position is “blow everything up” then there not much argument or discussion to be had. We fundamentally disagree on first principles so any discussion will be spent taking past each other.

            As for my comment above, it was reductive and juvenile, but it was directly in response to a reductive and juvenile proposition (blow the entire system up). I will not spend time discussing why that particular position is harmful and absurd.

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            1 year ago

            I am blown away that you think terrorism will fix things. When has that ever worked?

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              Half of the mid 20th century anti-colonial revolts used tactics extensively that if used nowadays by official enemies would be called terrorism. Hell the US lost to both the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and National Liberation Front both used terrorist tactics extensively to sap the will to fight and disrupt day to day running of the occupation.