• Slagathor@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s really crazy that the “somebody other than Trump” campaign approach has endured for ~4 years.

    I don’t have the words to describe how far the credibility of the United States has fallen in my lifetime.

    I remember when Dan Quayle misspelled potato, and poof, his career was over. Now you have a criminal reality TV star running for reelection.

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      1 year ago

      You don’t even have to go that far back. Howard Dean’s enthusiastic-but-awkward yell was such a non-issue, and it still ruined his whole campaign.

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        And it wasn’t even that awkward! At least it wasn’t if you were there in the room, among the roaring crowd. But they took the isolated audio from a single microphone. And poof. That was the end of his campaign.

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          I think that Dean could have recovered from it, if he just owned it. Hell, if he decided from that point to make it his own and use it to interrupt rude Republicans, that would have won him a lot of people.

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        It was even more of a non issue than you think. The clip that went around had the audience noise removed to make it seem more awkward than it was.

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          That creeps me out because of how religious and brainwashed it sounds. If I know nothing else about Carter, I would not vote for him based on that quote.

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            It would make me more likely, even though I’m an atheist. He was being honest with himself and honest to the public.

            It’s far better than some politician exclaiming how faithful and religious they are, then getting caught blowing the poolboy in a rented car.

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              Honest with himself sure, but that doesn’t change that what he was being honest about was that he is brainwashed by the church.

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      1 year ago

      You also didn’t have people win the presidency, get voted out of office, then try to run again. Usually people get the message after getting voted out after just one term.

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        Trump’s feral genius locked onto the Big Lie, which effectively avoided the party reckoning and ejection that comes with losing the presidency.

        Guy has three straight election-cycle losses, but the base is convinced he’s the usurped rightful king rampant, and 43% of the registered electorate is eager to return him to the throne.

        An aside: the Constitution is a dogshit template for a political system if it can be hacked this easily by a buffoon.

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      Quayle was never supposed to go beyond VPOTUS. He was picked because of how much in the background he really was.

      Biden has remained because he’s actually one of the best people at handling Congress in recent history. What Im afraid of is how few people there are in the pipeline.

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      It’s really crazy that people thing he’s only popular because of the “other than Trump” phenomenon. The guy has done a lot of good, the Dems aren’t planning to kill me if I have an abortion, end my friends marriage or call the local drag queens who entertain me on a Friday night pedophiles, there are a lot of reasons to vote for the Dems aside from then not being Not Trump. ie they aren’t trying to take anyone’s fucking rights away to start with.

    • badragonfly7137@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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      I don’t think you really have to go very far back. Since I was old enough to remember, I heard basically every adult say that they voted for the lesser of two evils. Maybe it wasn’t as overt then, but it was definitely the mind set.