Had an Atto 3 for 6 months now and done 22000km. It’s an excellent car for the money. Contemplating replacing my petrol skoda with a second one as we need two cars though ideally need a bigger boot so maybe a model y.
Range seems low for a battery that big in a car that size. Is it really heavy or just not that great aero?
It has an LFP battery.
I wonder if the interior and exterior was made by 2 different teams?
Or the interior was adapted to adopt the screens way too quick for a proper design changes?
Everything else seems to be properly designed
Looks fairly similar inside to the Atto 3 which has been out for a while.
Personally after spending a bunch of time in the Model 3, Atto 3 and Polestar 2 I think I prefer the BYD - it’s a good middle ground between the cave-like Polestar and overly minimalistic Tesla. There are definitely still some software quirks though and gimmicks though.
Yep that is scary good. Sell me a wagon in US and I’ll buy Chinese.
Hello NIO ET5 Touring
Unless you enjoy negative attention on the road and a keyed car I wouldn’t. It’s like buying a KIA right now. You wouldn’t subject yourself to the KIA boys willingly either.
Hey aren’t you the guy who repeatedly spreads anti-EV misinformation?
Can u disable the Chinese spyware?
No one is spying on your broke ass
Isn’t “everyone is spying on you”, regardless if you broke or rich, is much closer to the truth?
Its very hard to avoid all spying from US, China, etc nowadays
I’d love to see some competition in the US. Though I suspect that if they were to come over, they wouldn’t be priced competitively as they are in other countries.
Seems more like an advertisement than an actual review. Why was Robert impressed with the car being waterproof and the cup holders in the back seat?
Boy: You can’t treat the working man this way. One day we’ll form a union and get the fair and equittable treatment we deserve. Then we’ll go too far, and get corrupt and shiftless and the Japanese will eat us alive!
Mr. Burns’ Grandfather: The Japanese!? Those sandal-wearing goldfish tenders? Bosh! Flimshaw!
Years Later
Mr. Burns: If only we’d listened to that boy, instead of walling him up in the abandoned coke oven.Excellent comment
Ironically the CATL plant in Michigan was gonna allow unions and even had UAW support because of that but Ford seems to want to cancel it
Hate those click-bait headlines. The Perfect EV my ass!!
So gutted that BYD has decided to put almost NZD$9k premium on the Seal Performance pricing in New Zealand vs Australia.
Combine that with the new government committing to cancelling EV rebates (making the difference more like NZD$16k), and planning to add road-user charges (with a priority for Electric Vehicles) the cost/benefit has shifted a bit.
Sadly I’ll now be waiting to see how market and auto-makers respond.
Still impressed with the many reviews showing how well it measures up against competition for what could be much better dollars.
BYD will eventually sell in the US, either with a factory here or via Mexico. They’ve figured out manufacturing and will go the Toyota route of volume over per car profitability, and just like Toyota, sweep up entire segments of the auto market.
Several years ago I made the following prediction for the auto market post-2030:
40% Chinese automakers
20% Tesla
40% Everyone elseWe seem to be on track. Maybe a little overly generous on the third point.
A little over generous on the Tesla market.
Especially if Elon continues his current tweeting (X-ing?) behaviour.
Quite possibly, but if the total passenger-vehicle market were to remain at 2022’s 57.5 million, Tesla would need 11.5M unit sales to be 20% of that, while their aspirational goal remains at 20M by 2030.
Given how much the legacy automakers are scaling back their EV plans recently, while Tesla simply predicts somewhat lower than 50% growth for now, the needle is pointing more in the direction of my prediction than it was even 6 months ago.
The U.S. won’t let them use Mexico or Canada as a bypass. It’s against import rules. They will have to set up a car plant in the states first.
Right, just like gotion or CATL?
Oh wait! Our lunatic politics started to throw a tantrum because this must be the evil CCP setting up a covert spy center!
We throw a fit when china takes our jobs using low wages and we also get angry when china bring jobs back and pay American level wages. Wtf do we want? We look pathetic and desperate like if we are running out of options.
You know how china got to where it was today? By saying “yes” to American factories in China.
Don’t be so dramatic.
China got to where it is by taking the tech of others. Lithium and LFP batteries were invented in America. Not to mention the hundreds of other IP they sent spies to take. The concern isn’t unwarranted.
American companies couldn’t even open their own plants in China, they had to partner with a Chinese operation. It wasn’t until THIS YEAR that China let outside companies own their own operations in the country just like in America where BYD Trucks, Polestar/Volvo, and a LARGE number of other Chinese companies outside of the automotive sector that no one talks about.
Furthermore, Gotion got rejected by a local town, not Congress. Not even American companies can just put things where they want to, citizens get a say.
The Ford battery plant, rejected by Virginia leadership was picked up by Michigan and despite the interference from Congress is STILL on track.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/business/ford-ev-battery-plant-michigan.html
Congress itself can’t interfere with Ford or Tesla unless they are all on the same page and they can’t even pass a budget right now.
What I do know for sure is that the Federal Commerce dept will not let ANY company just bypass tariffs. Chinese solar panel makers tried doing that and they got blocked for it.
BYD just like Tesla in the EU will most likely have to settle down with a car plant in America if they want to take advantage of NAFTA.
They will build in Mexico, not just import it through there.
They have already bought a plant in South America to serve that market. Buying into a plant in Mexico or Canada won‘t be much of an issue for them.
BYD Model 3
It’s a sedan so no not perfect.
I wonder how aggressively the Chinese manufacturers will take advantage of the Direct Sales model for selling cars that has been opened up for over the years?
Seems like they can bypass the dealership model entirely and start selling direct to consumers once they are ready to flood the US markets.
Not sure proponents had this scenario in mind. “We want direct to consumer sales of our cars, but not their cars.” Time will tell.
That’s a guarantee to squash any movement in getting rid of stealerships. It’s hard enough for American manufacturers to turn that tide. A Chinese one with today’s divisive politics? Americans are too stubborn to stop killing themselves.
Byd seal is a mid range car in china